There is positive feedback on Tuscany  from J. Aaron who conducted Asia OS
Tuscany Code fest session [1].
Some comments are:

"One interesting observation was that the Tuscany team (students) got
started faster thanks to good project documentation and fewer software
prerequisites. "

"However, they (students)  ended up picking a bug that might have been a
little too tricky given the time  (2 days)  we had to solve it. ..." ...
"Frameworks can only do so much in helping to eliminate the fundamental
costs of the Java development cycle..."

The "framework" topic raises the question if there is a way to further
enhance development documentation and simplify the environment to help new
developers come on board quickly?  I'd like to propose that we create a list
of what might be useful/helpful.

It would be great to hear the challenges that new developers might be
running into. Are you getting what you need to get started? If not, what
would help.

 Here is my observation for what would help me.  Please add.

   - Mid level module structure for SCA and key debug break points (entry
   and exit) for core and extensions using a simple sample as an example


[1] http://cubiclemuses.com/cm/blog/2008/codefest.html


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mar 10, 2008 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Asia Open Source Symposium Code Fest is looking for help, was
Fwd: Low hanging bugs for students
To: [email protected]

FYI, here is a post [1] from J. Aaron about what happened on the AOSS Code
Fest.

[1] http://cubiclemuses.com/cm/blog/2008/codefest.html

2008/3/5 Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Please review the page with the suggestions discussed on this thread.
>  I plan to send this tomorrow for the event organizer.
>
>  [1]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Asia+Open+Source+Symposium%0D%0AAsia+Open+Source+Symposium+Code+Fest
>
>  2008/3/5 Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> > We need to get something proposed really soon, as the event is over
>  >  the weekend. I'd suggest the JIRAs under Tools and Sample categories,
>  >  but make it open if someone wants to address JIRAs in any other area.
>  >  As for projects, we could identify projects that need enhanced testing
>  >  (e.g implementation-data-xml).
>  >
>  >  Thoughts ?
>  >
>  >  2008/3/4 haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >
>  >
>  > > this is only a 2 day event. Can you identify a project that can be
done in
>  >  >  such a short time? That would be great.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On 3/4/08, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > My 2c.  More than bugs it would be interesting for the students
if we
>  >  >  > could
>  >  >  > suggest some minor enhancements to our tools or extensions.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > - Venkat
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > 2008/3/5 haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > > It looks like they are looking for short, 1-2 day, projects to
expose
>  >  >  > > students to how to provide patches in open source.
>  >  >  > >
>  >  >  > > How about suggesting a few of sample bugs for this exercise?
This will
>  >  >  > > expose the students to Tuscany and show them how to run
samples.  This
>  >  >  > > will
>  >  >  > > also give them a chance to  fix smaller scoped problems and
gain the
>  >  >  > > experience that is looked for.
>  >  >  > >
>  >  >  > >
>  >  >  > > On 3/3/08, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > This is a good opportunity for increasing awareness for
Apache
>  >  >  > > > Tuscany. We could identify some JIRAs and/or very small
projects (e.g
>  >  >  > > > enhancements to specific extensions) that we could send to J
Aaron
>  >  >  > > > Farr to be used with the Chinese students.
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > Thoughts ? Any suggestions ?
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>  >  >  > > > From: J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  >  > > > Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:27 AM
>  >  >  > > > Subject: Low hanging bugs for students
>  >  >  > > > To: Apache Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > This next weekend I'm going to be at the Asia Open Source
Symposium
>  >  >  > > > Code Fest.  What was going to be a hackathon-like event is
now a
>  >  >  > > > student focused event with something like 50 university
students
>  >  >  > > > attending for two days to learn something about open
source.  So now
>  >  >  > > > I'm trying to come up with ideas on what to have these
students do.
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > My preference is to have the students work on a bunch of
patches over
>  >  >  > > > two days rather than work on a single application to be
released at
>  >  >  > > > the end of the event.  To me, the patch process is a fairly
unique
>  >  >  > > > open source skill, so that's what I want to emphasize.
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > I already have some bugs, features and code in mind, most
related to
>  >  >  > > > the ApacheCon website.  But if anyone has some ideas of other
low
>  >  >  > > > hanging bugs or features that I could task a few students
with, please
>  >  >  > > > let me know.  Think of it as a two-day "summer of code".
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > If anyone has any other thoughts or suggestions, please pass
them on.
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > Thanks!
>  >  >  > > >
>  >  >  > > > --
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