Hi! Just a short feedback: I think the new design is a lot easier to understand. I never used the tabs in the old design. The green colouring is more friendly, but the brown is also okay and does a more obvious separation of the sections.
The only thing I would like to mention is that I would prefer a sans-serif font in the navigation area on the left like it is in the old design. It is better to read. Best regards, Katja -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 21:44:59 -0800 Von: "haleh mahbod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: [email protected], [email protected] Betreff: Re: Tuscany Website Updates > Hi, > > I have been checking the new website that is published at this link > http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/ on several different > occasions to see if I can adapt to the new coloring. I think our current > site color combo (http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/) is much more > inviting and easier on the eyes. what does everyone else think? > > I am copying tuscany users on this mail to get your input. The prototype > at > http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/ has changed the > layout of the website and got rid of the tabs. Is this easier to follow? > Your feedback to make the site more user friendly is important to us. > Thank > you for taking the time to give feedback. > > Haleh > > > On 11/6/06, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Venkat, > > Thanks for the website work. It looks better and is easier to navigate > > through. > > > > Minor comments > > - We already mention that Tuscany is under Apache License 2.0 in the > > overview. It does not seem necessary to have an entry called license and > ASF > > under General section. > > - Down load page should contain an entry that describes content of each > > release. For example, what is in SCA Java M1. > > - Can FAQ be a link to Wiki? It would be easier to update by anyone. > > > > - How to Add info about SCA extensions? > > 1. Add Extension entry to SCA navigation tab on the left after SCA C++. > > 2. Create a top level navigation for 'SCA lang extensions' just like > what > > we have for SCA, SDO, DAS. It could contain overview, documentation, > > download (maybe) entries. The challenge will then be how to separate > > extensions provided on top of C++ or Java runtimes. > > > > Option 2 seems easier to navigate through. > > > > > > On 11/6/06, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > You should be able to run build.bat and get the site-publish created. > > > > > > Also, rfeng had posted a snapshot of the site during today's IRC chat, > > > and > > > it's available at : > > > http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/ > > > > > > PS.: I think I like the greenish version better then the new colors... > > > > > > - Luciano Resende > > > > > > On 11/6/06, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Venkat, > > > > There is no site-publish directory in this zip file. How do I look > at > > > the > > > > content? > > > > Haleh > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/6/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have put in a new zip file - > > > > > tuscany_site_Nov_6.zip< > > > > > > > > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12344405/tuscany_site_Nov_6.zip > > > > > > > > >in > > > > > the JIRA ( > > > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-703) containing the > > > updates > > > > > to > > > > > the look and feel. I have linked up all (hopefully) the content > > > that > > > > > exists > > > > > today. If people find this agreeable I can commit this and we can > > > start > > > > > pushing in contents into various areas from now on. > > > > > > > > > > Raymond, could you please over write your last post on > > > > > people.apache.orgwith the contents of this zip file. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > - Venkat > > > > > > > > > > On 11/4/06, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Information presented on the website needs to be progressive. > This > > > > means > > > > > > that we expose critical/interesting information as top level > > > > > information > > > > > > and allow the reader to learn more as they advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that it is interesting for users and developers to know > > > > > > about SCA's > > > > > > flexibility to extend beyond Java and C++ at the first glance. > > > This is > > > > > > something we'd want to promote as a top level piece of > information > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > website. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, information about bindings seem to be > > > > implementation > > > > > > details that are not critical as a top level information. User > > > will > > > > > reach > > > > > > to > > > > > > this information when he/she drills down for more information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Haleh > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/3/06, Venkata Krishnan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find my comments inline. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/3/06, Andrew Borley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For SCA, I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the > things > > > we > > > > > > > > support in our releases - Tuscany SCA does more than just > C++ > > > or > > > > > Java, > > > > > > > > and the fact that we implement in these 2 languages doesn't > > > really > > > > > > > > need to be quite so highlighted on the site (IMO). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we have more than just Java and C++ lets go and mention > that, > > > but > > > > > > under > > > > > > > SCA - is all that I am asking. So that a user knows where all > > > of > > > > this > > > > > > > goes > > > > > > > into or what the common thread is to all of this. Remember we > > > also > > > > > have > > > > > > > DAS > > > > > > > and SDO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be cool > > > > > > > > would be a listing of all the stuff we support, and then > link > > > to > > > > > some > > > > > > > > info about where and how we provide that support. E.g: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Component language bindings: > > > > > > > > Java > > > > > > > > C++ > > > > > > > > Javascript > > > > > > > > Python > > > > > > > > Ruby > > > > > > > > PHP (with a link to the SCA for PHP project for now) > > > > > > > > etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Containers: > > > > > > > > Tomcat > > > > > > > > HTTPD > > > > > > > > etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bindings: > > > > > > > > Axis2 Web Services > > > > > > > > etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do people think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will certainly interest the users.. but what's in your > mind > > > > about > > > > > > > presenting this.. are you suggesting that we simply list all > of > > > this > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Navigation Pane on the left? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/3/06, Venkata Krishnan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Everbody for looking into this and providing your > > > > comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick, I am ok with the Tabs as long as we provide enhanced > > > user > > > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > > thro them. We must either have the tabs or the pane on > the > > > left > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > first level navigation. i.e. For every tab selected the > > > > > navigation > > > > > > > pane > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the left has a diff set of relevant options. So if SCA > tab > > > is > > > > > > seleced > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > on the left pane we see only stuff releated to SCA. I > would > > > > > > > feel > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > consistent and less confusing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lee and Raymond, it is no surprise that the links are not > > > > working > > > > > > > :). I > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > submitted ahead that this is just to get a top level feel > of > > > the > > > > > > > > navigation > > > > > > > > > I am proposing and the links may either not work or work > > > > wrongly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile I am proceeding with the changes and will get up > > > more > > > > > > > updates > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > that JIRA before this weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/3/06, Raymond Feng < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I uploaded Venkat's patch to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~rfeng/tuscany/site-publish/index.htmlfor > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > viewing. I found quite a few links bring me to the wrong > > > page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest that we keep the GUI template (panes and > > > tabs) > > > > > as > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > focus on adding more contents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Raymond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > From: "Venkata Krishnan" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:33 AM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tuscany Website Updates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure yes Ant. For the Documentation, as mentioned > > > earlier, > > > > I > > > > > > plan > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > separate pages for SCA Docs, SDO Docs. and DAS Docs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each of these pages will have a list of topics that > will > > > > > further > > > > > > > > link to > > > > > > > > > > > separate pages. Here is something that I can imagine > > > for > > > > now > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) SCA Java Overview > > > > > > > > > > > <will will have something in general about how we > > > have > > > > > > > > partitioned as > > > > > > > > > > > APIs SPI Core etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) SCA Java - Extensions > > > > > > > > > > > <About extensions... Implementation Types, Bindings > > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > general > > > > > > > > > > > prog. model around loaders, buliders, invokers> > > > > > > > > > > > <How to write your own impl. type and binding > > > extensions> > > > > > > > > > > > <Tuscany Implementatin Extensions> > > > > > > > > > > > <JavaScript> > > > > > > > > > > > <Groovy> > > > > > > > > > > > <Ruby> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) SCA Java - DataBinding Facility > > > > > > > > > > > <About DataBinding and its advantage> > > > > > > > > > > > <How to write your own data bindings> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Java SCA Runtimes and Application Deployment > > > > > > > > > > > <Standalone> > > > > > > > > > > > <WebApp> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Java SCA Samples > > > > > > > > > > > <Overview of samples available in SCA Java> > > > > > > > > > > > <How to write your own SCA Application> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess, what you wish to do might go into one of > the > > > > lind > > > > > > uder > > > > > > > > Topic > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please feel free to correct this or fill in if I have > > > > grossly > > > > > > > missed > > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > somethings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/2/06, ant elder < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/2/06, ant elder < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On 11/2/06, Venkata Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > I am putting up some proposals for updates to our > > > > website > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > >> > > feedback on this or suggestions for the better. > > > Right > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > > >> > > level > > > > > > > > > > >> > > ones are: > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > - Do away with the tabs. This is because I don't > > > see > > > > > > > > correlation > > > > > > > > > > >> > > between > > > > > > > > > > >> > > the Tab options and the options on the navigation > > > pane > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > left. > > > > > > > > > > >> i.e > > > > > > > > > > >> > > . if > > > > > > > > > > >> > > the tabs are first level navigation then the pane > > > on > > > > the > > > > > > left > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sub-options within a selected tab - I don't see > > > such a > > > > > > > > > > >> correlation. So > > > > > > > > > > >> > > let's avoid confusion to the website visitor > > > > > > > > > > >> > > - There is lots of green :) and am having some > > > > > difficulties > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > >> > > additional colors that gel with this. Either > > > somebody > > > > > with > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > >> > > colour > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sense helps or we moderate the green a bit. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > - The images that are used for the Navigation > > > Optoins > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > left > > > > > > > > > > >> > > pane > > > > > > > > > > >> > > and > > > > > > > > > > >> > > for the titles of various boxes may need to be > > > > sharpened > > > > > a > > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > All this besides the fact the the various > > > navigations > > > > > paths > > > > > > > > need to > > > > > > > > > > >> > > be > > > > > > > > > > >> > > reviewed and set right. I shall get to these as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Meanwhile I have created a JIRA > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-703where > > > > I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > >> attempted > > > > > > > > > > >> > > to > > > > > > > > > > >> > > provide a view of what's in my mind for the > > > Navigation > > > > > Pane > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > >> left > > > > > > > > > > >> > > together with some changes for the Downloads > page. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > You simply have to extract the zip that is > attached > > > in > > > > > that > > > > > > > > JIRA > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > >> > > take a > > > > > > > > > > >> > > look at /site-publish/downloads.html. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Also, I have a diagram posted for the Java_SCA > > > Overview > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > >> > > JIRA, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > please see if you can say somethings about that > as > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > - Venkat > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Its really good you're looking at the website > Venkat, > > > it > > > > > has > > > > > > > > become a > > > > > > > > > > >> bit > > > > > > > > > > >> > neglected. What you've suggested above all sounds > > > good to > > > > > me, > > > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > > > >> suggest > > > > > > > > > > >> > just going ahead and making changes as you think > > > > > appropriate > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > >> will be > > > > > > > > > > >> > much easier for you. Maybe for big ones mention on > > > the > > > > dev > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > >> but > > > > > > > > > > >> > otherwise just dive in and send emails after the > fact > > > so > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > >> review - > > > > > > > > > > >> > just as with the code CTR not RTC :) > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> I meant to add, I'd like to help, specifically with > > > adding > > > > > > pages > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > doc > > > > > > > > > > >> about the various extensions, maybe along the lines > of > > > that > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > >> posted > > > > > > > > > > >> earlier [1]. 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