Haleh, Raymond,

Thank you for your answers.

Haleh, you're right. I make no distinction between tools for SCA developers
and tools for SCA users. The goal of the project is to develop tools to help
users of the SCA technology. I will modify my sentence.

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:21 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Stephan,
>
> This looks good since it looks like tools for SCA will get more focus :)
> I have a question.
>
> You mention "the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set of
> tools for SCA developers and SCA users".
>
> What is the difference between SCA developer and SCA user in this context?
>
> Haleh
>
> On 4/2/08, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jean-Sebastien, Haleh, all,
> >
> > The proposal is a 3 pages document describing the scope/intent of the
> > proposed project.
> >
> > The outline is:
> > 1. Introduction: the proposition of the transformation of the STP/SCA
> > component into a sub-project named SCA Tools under the top level project
> > STP.
> > 2. Background: presentation of STP + presentation of the existing
> STP/SCA
> > component.
> > 3. Description: the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set of
> > tools for SCA developers and SCA users. Another goal is also to link
> this
> > sub-project with other components of STP (Service Creation, Policy
> Editor)
> > 4. Proposed components: SCA Domain Model (SCA meta model), SCA Composite
> > Designer, SCA Composite Editors (tree, xml and form), SCA Integration
> > (integration with other STP components)
> > 5. Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects: STP, EMF, GMF, M2M, ...
> > 6. Organization: this sub-project will take place under the top level
> > project STP.
> > 7. A list of proposed initial committers.
> > 8. Code Contribution: the Eclipse STP/SCA component will be the initial
> > code.
> > 9. Interested parties: this section lists companies and communities that
> > support the creation of the project. They don't take other engagements.
> > 10. Tentative Plan for 2008 and 2009.
> >
> > Our goal is to identify formally the scope of the tools that we develop
> > around SCA. The new status will provide some advantages.
> > - I think that the SCA tools will be more visible in the Eclipse
> community
> > if we are identified as a sub-project.
> > - From the users point of view, it will not change anything.
> > - Concerning us, we should be more formal: clear roadmap, new features
> > described/discussed first in bugzilla, ...
> > - It will also present some advantages for Obeo by becoming a
> sub-project
> > leader.
> >
> > In the near future all STP components will become STP sub-projects. To
> > summarize, all of this is purely administrative.
> > I will send you the proposal document ASAP.
> > If you have any questions, don't hesitate.
> >
> > Haleh, yesterday I sent you more information about the SCA Composite
> > Designer on the thread named "[Website] - Tooling for Java SCA". You can
> > add
> > it on the web page. Tell me if you need more/different information.
> > My post describes what version of Tuscany can be used. I also introduce
> a
> > tutorial that I made. This tutorial is based on the SCA designer and
> > Tuscany
> > 1.1.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Stéphane Drapeau
> > Obeo
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stephane,
> > >
> > > Welcome to Tuscany. How will changing the status of STP SCA from a
> > > component
> > > to a sub project change its future development and focus?
> > >
> > > Tuscany community had asked about tools for SCA and  because of that I
> > > recently added a website page [1] to collect more information about
> > > available open source tools. I added a link to STP there.  It would be
> > > great
> > > if you could provide more content about what is available and what
> > version
> > > of Tuscany it works with.
> > >
> > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/java-sca-tools.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Haleh
> > >
> > > On 4/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stéphane Drapeau wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm Stéphane Drapeau from Obeo. I work on tools for SCA and I lead
> > the
> > > > > Eclipse SCA component which is a component of the STP project [1].
> > > > > Currently, I'm writing a proposal to change the status of the STP
> > SCA
> > > *
> > > > > component* to STP/SCA Tools *sub project*.
> > > > > I would like know if I can refer Tuscany community as interested
> > party
> > > > of
> > > > > our proposal. It's purely administrative.
> > > > > Jean Sebastien told me that the Tuscany community must vote on
> this
> > > > issue.
> > > > > So the discussion is open ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks very much.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Stéphane Drapeau
> > > > > Obeo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]: http://www.eclipse.org/stp/sca/index.php
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Stephane,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for posting here, it'll enable the whole Tuscany community to
> > get
> > > > involved in the discussion around your SCA editor proposal.
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell us a bit more about the proposal? do you have an
> outline?
> > > >
> > > > Also can you help us understand what it means to be listed under
> > > > "interested parties" in such a proposal?
> > > >
> > > > Any questions or thoughts from others on the list?
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Sebastien
> > > >
> > > >
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