Ed Singleton wrote: > On 24/11/05, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It sounds like maybe you come from a background in Smalltalk, or >> maybe you should look at Smalltalk. In Smalltalk the whole >> environment is dynamic and can be saved and restored easily.> > > Just had a quick look at Smalltalk, and at first glance the overview > of the ideas behind it seems amazing, but the language seems quite > ugly, and it seems to be very IDE led.
I guess the language grows on you, it certainly has some strong supporters. It is very oriented to a single comprehensive environment. I think this is one reason it never became generally popular. But it also is what gives the language its extreme malleability. It does do what you want - it allows you to change objects and classes dynamically at run-time and save the state of the system at any time. The down side is that all interaction with the system is from within. >>For Python, I think you will do better if you narrow your requirements. >>Python is very dynamic - classes can be changed at runtime, or reloaded if >>you are careful - and there are several good ways to persist state. If you >>can be more specific about what you really need there may be a solution for >>you. > > > What I want to do seems quite simple to me in concept, but is seeming > more and more as if it would be hard to implement. > > I want to create a small simple CMS for my website. Users will be > able to add and edit basic pages. Pages can have sub-pages (no need > for folders cause a folder and an index.html can be unified into one > concept). Have you looked at Plone and PyLucid? http://plone.org/ http://www.pylucid.org/ > Indeed > it doesn't really seem that Python is suited to a persistent > environment. Having a program running for a long time (months) is > possible certainly, but it seems to be fighting against the language > rather than working with it. Python provides mechanisms for persistence but not a way to persist the entire environment. You have to design and build your program to support persistence. Long-running Python programs are certainly possible. PS Please reply on list. Kent -- http://www.kentsjohnson.com _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
