Steve Willoughby wrote:
Likewise, there's a reason the IDE environments like Visual Studio or Eclipse, and pointy-clicky-WYSIWYG editing tools exist. They're much easier for beginners to learn, not as intimidating, but in the end they

For example, I use pyWin or IDLE all the time if I want to play interactively with the interpreter or demonstrate a really simple thing. If I go to write a 10,000-line or 50,000-line application you can bet money it will be with vim or emacs (or maybe eclipse but usually not even that).

On the other hand, I'm teaching some people in my family how to program computers, and for the time being they have enough to learn just mastering the basics. They're using IDLE and pyWin. Those are easy, obvious how to do what they need to do, and can focus on learning Python itself without remembering what key does what in the editor.

I love those simpler, more visual, editors for situations like that.
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