Le Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:32:57 -0400, Kent Johnson <ken...@tds.net> s'exprima ainsi:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:54 AM, spir <denis.s...@free.fr> wrote: > > Le Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:05:04 -0400, > > Kent Johnson <ken...@tds.net> s'exprima ainsi: > >> There is some discussion here: > >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2007-March/006161.html > >> > >> Short answer: __builtins__ is an implementation detail that you should > >> ignore. > >> > >> Kent > >> > > > > Right, thank you, Kent. > > The issue here is I cannot ignore __buitins__ (or __builtin__). Or maybe > > I don't understand your answer properly. > > > > Yop, sorry, I get it now. It's the same dict in both cases -- except > > __buitins__ is expanded in the second case... Not obvious! (Is that what > > you mean?) > > What are you trying to do? Why can't you ignore __builtins__? Actually, I don't mind of __builtins__, but of vars() or locals(). The issue is that __builtins__ were monstruously ;-) obfuscating a scope dict I needed. In fact, I printed it out to check it contains what I want; when I saw all that stuff there I thought there was something wrong in my method. Actually the dict contains what I need, and only 4 elements. Simply one of them is veeery BIG. For the sake of information, the reason for this is I need a kind of dynamic scoping, i.e. getting the vars from the caller scope; while python is statically scoped. I cannot find any other way than passing e.g. vars(). Hints welcome. By the way, I asked previously about the difference between vars() and locals() (couldn't find a situation where they differ). Still have no idea, and there seems to be nothing about that in docs. So why both? [...] > Kent Denis ------ la vita e estrany ------ la vita e estrany _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
