2010/6/11 Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com>
> Personally, I would learn Python. My college does not offer Python
> either, so I had to learn what I know on my own(of course, by that I
> mean constantly pestering this and other of the amazing Python email
> lists). PHP is fine in itself, but, after using it, Java, and intros
> to a few other languages, nothing has been able to beat Python's ease
> of use, massive extensibility (there is a package to let you do just
> about anything you want), and support community. It is a great
> language and, especially if you plan to stick with desktop
> applications, I think it is much easier than a language like C++ or
> Java. Your life will be even easier than mine since you are going to
> be on Linux; I believe most Linux distros come with Python, while
> Windows does not, so what you make can be distributed as scripts while
> I have to use a program like py2exe and package the entire Python
> interpreter.
> Anyway, just my thoughts. Note that I am still in college for my
> computer science degree and am in no way a professional programmer,
> just someone who has waded in several languages and found Python to be
> the only one worth diving into all the way.
>
> On 6/11/10, Eldon Londe Mello Junior <eldo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > If you care to listen to my story and fully help me out, just keep on
> > reading }else{ move to the final question :)
> >
> > I'm just finishing an introductory course on PhP and MySQL (HTML, CSS and
> > Javascript basics included). That's a typical first step to novice
> > programmers in Brazil.
> >
> > However, I've been reading a lot about programming languages and stuff in
> > order to make the best choice as I don't want to spend much time learning
> > unnecessary things I won't need in the future.
> >
> > Thus, I decided I want to be a contributor for the GNU/LINUX community
> and,
> > of course, become sort of an opensource-solutions professional
> programmer.
> > And if I got it right, python would the most adequate language for me to
> > reach my goals.
> >
> > Only a few programmers in Brazil are familiar with python though. As I
> said
> > before, most beginners start with PhP and stick with it or go for JAVA or
> MS
> > proprietary languages. Actually, you can only learn python on your own
> > around here as no college or private institutes offer python courses.
> >
> > As you may see it coming, the big question for me is: should I stick with
> > PHP as most people here (those fond of free software) or Python is or
> would
> > be a better choice for me?
> >
> > FINAL QUESTION> Is Python a substitute for PHP? I mean, can I start
> learning
> > python by trying to do the things I've learned with PHP? Are they
> different
> > anyhow or they actually compete against each other?
> >
> > Thanks in advance, advice on which steps to take to reach my career goals
> > would be very appreciated as well!
> >
> > Eldon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:27:44 -0700
> >> From: dkuhl...@rexx.com
> >> To: Tutor@python.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Tutor] What's the catch with ZopeDB?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:42:35PM +0200, Knacktus wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > To me, ZopeDB (a object database for Python) looks like an awesomely
> >> > easy solution. I could save some brain power for the innovative part
> or
> >> > drink more beer watching the soccer world cup. At the same moment, I
> >> > wonder why anyone in the python world would go through the hassle of
> >> > using relational databases unless forced.
> >> >
> >> > So, has anyone experience with ZopeDB? Are there some drawbacks I
> should
> >> >
> >> > be aware of before getting a book and dive in? (It sounds too good
> ;-))
> >> >
> >>
> >> Jan -
> >>
> >> If you are evaluating alternative solutions, you might also look
> >> into Django models. There have been some very positive comments
> >> about Django on this list. And, Django models can be used outside
> >> of the Django Web applications. Also, Django models are reasonably
> >> object oriented. A Django model/DB can sit on top of several
> >> different relational database engines, for example, PostgreSQL, MySQL,
> >> sqlite3, etc.
> >>
> >> See:
> >>
> >> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/#the-model-layer
> >> http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/chapter05/
> >>
> >> - Dave
> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman <http://www.rexx.com/%7Edkuhlman>
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Eldon;
Same here in Mexico, in my hometown Guadalajara I couldn't find any Python
course everything is either PHP, Delphi, Visual Basic or Java; I chose Java
as a way of learning Python, sounds odd but since I don't have any
programming background I was lacking the basics concepts and my
self-teaching techniques were not doing a very good job; Java is HARD is
confusing and most of my effort has gone into trying to memorize the steps
in order to run a simple program; my idea is after this course I will
re-take Python and understand it much better and of course as a Ihave
already realized and actually miss its simplicity and beauty; so I guess
it's true to say that "The more I learn Java the more I Love Python".
--
¡Saludos! / Greetings!
Juan José Del Toro M.
jdeltoro1...@gmail.com
Guadalajara, Jalisco MEXICO
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