On 16/03/12 00:29, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I have notepad++ as well. Its great. But eclipse is better, especially
for learning. I can't describe how much it helped me.

I believe that eclipse is crap.

No, it's not crap, it's one of the most powerful and extensible development tools available and used by thousands (millions?) of professional programmers worldwide. But...

> I tried it 10 years ago and gave up because it was so slow.

It's written in Java and 10 years ago few PCs had the horsepower to run Java well, and the Java compilers/VM were less efficient too.

I tried it a couple of months ago for two weeks and again gave up
> for the same reasons.

Unless you are still using the same 10 year old PC it shouldn't have been that bad! I certainly don't find it any slower than most large apps these days.

Why not stick with pythonwin, it's perfectly adequate for my needs?

For a beginner to python I tend to agree with you. Not because Eclipse is slow but because it's way over powered for the simple programs beginners write. If you want to develop a large application with dozens/hundreds of files and packages on Windows then Eclipse (or Netbeans etc) is a useful tool to have. And if you need to develop code in many different languages again, Eclipse will provide consistency. And if you need to build design models in UML you get a choice of top-end tools. But, for single-file programs Pythonwin and even IDLE are perfectly adequate.

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Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/

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