On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Ironically, I wonder if channels like HBO and Showtime feel they have to
> > sprinkle lots of nudity into their shows as a reaction to the generally
> > prudish nature of network television as a result of the FCC's rules? It's
> > now quite noticeable that there will be nudity in the first episode of
> just
> > about any series that comes from these networks, to point out to viewers
> the
> > difference. Sprinkle some "ripe" language and some in your face nudity,
> and
> > we know for certain that we're watching an HBO/Showtime/Starz show.
>
> The only one of these series I watched was the first season of Rome
> and 90% of the nudity and explicit violence was in the first episode.
> I think part of it is to relay to the viewer "We're not in kiddie-land
> any more" and part of it is to juice DVD and overseas sales.
>

After staying away from it all these years for a number of reasons, I have
been plowing through SG-1 the last month. I had seen the original film, but
really knew very little about the series. I did remember that it was shown
years ago on the local Fox affiliate, so I was really shocked when, pretty
much without warning about half way through the pilot episode there were a
few scenes of female upper body nudity. That really was a banner announcing
that somehow, I was not watching a typical broadcast show, and sparked a
little surfing on my part (only a little, as I am trying to avoid spoilers)
and found that it was originally on Showtime (with episodes later syndicated
on Fox) before moving to SciFi. I don't know if it was because of the Fox
deal, but so far no more nudity as popped up at all (I am at the beginning
of season 5, so I guess I am going to get to the Sci Fi switchover pretty
soon, after which I suspect nudity will not be possible). In this case, I
think the restraint has helped the show (I would be interested to see if the
original producers had argued for more nudity and were denied).

I would not place Stargate in the upper levels of quality cable programming
addressed in this thread, but on its own terms, I think it would have been a
lesser show if it had given itself the full "Game of Thrones" treatment (one
of the things I like about the show is the way they treat the Carter
character, which I think would have been ruined if we got a load of her rack
every third or fourth episode; the main alternative source of female nudity
would have been to turn the show into the alien stripper/slut of the week,
which would not have been good either). I have more problems with the US
military propaganda aspects of this show, but that is a different thread.

Again, I am not going to endorse the general "fewer breasts please" request
of McNamara, but I do think HBO should remind itself that less is more. We
can always flip over a few channels to Cinemax if we just want to see naked
breasts.

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