Fair enough. But in my humble opinion, the talk of any candidate amounts to just that... talk. Do they say different things and even have different ideas? Of course, but the change that was promised by Obama throughout his campaign proved to be empty rhetoric... or change for the worse. I have no stomach to hear the false promises and outright lies contained within "debates" (if we were talking, those would have been air quotes). Even if they cover important issues such as privacy, gun control, health care, or economic recovery -- we'll not see the much-needed substantive reform needed in those areas from either candidate. Watching the queen in the clip of the opening ceremonies, I couldn't help but think that she can affect just as insignificant an amount of change in her government as the president does in ours. Not quite a figurehead, but more or less toothless. So while you might be able to see and hear differences in candidates during the debates, it just doesn't matter in a world where corporations are people and women aren't equal in the eyes of the government.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:40 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > I hear people say stuff like this all the time, and it always amazes me. >> > I >> > think I have seen just about every Presidential Debate since 1976, and >> > the >> > majority reveal substantial differences between the two candidates. >> > Certainly the Obama-McCain debates turned on very important and >> > significant >> > differences on health care, tax policy, financial regulation, and Iraq, >> > all >> > of which issues have indeed been important during the last 3.5 years. >> > Both >> > candidates gave articulate and detailed (given the constraints of the >> > format) presentations of their policies. If Americans had voted for >> > McCain >> > very different steps would have been taken on each of those fronts. >> > Obama >> > has generally followed pretty closely what he said he would do >> >> I'm going to have to take your word on that, because I didn't watch >> the debates, but did Obama really say he'd continue to lead us into a >> recession, capitulate on health care, cave on election reform, allow >> GitMo to remain open, continue strip-mining civil liberties, keep the >> military in countries despite claiming wars were over, and just >> generally be a ball-less, d*ck-less, ineffective leader? Because if >> that is what he said in the debates, I actually might tune in. > > > I have been trained not to rise to redder bait than that over the last few > years, so I will let the substance pass. But again it is irrelevant to the > point. Regardless of your evaluation of President Obama's record, there is > no doubt that there were real differences between him and McCain, that a > President McCain would have made significantly different decisions than > President Obama did (for better or worse), and these differences were well > aired in the debates 4 years ago. > > > > > -- > TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
