I haven't seen said interview, but do you think it would've been different
had Jon Stewart been in that chair?

On Friday, August 9, 2013, PGage wrote:

> John Oliver had a really interesting show last night, and what I think
> will go down as at least one of the best interviews in the history of the
> Daily Show (I am giving myself some wiggle room there, pending seeing a
> list of the other contenders). In the end he did not get any new or
> specific answers to his questions, but just seeing the clear, direct
> questions being asked of a politician was striking - not just for an
> entertainment interview, but even for a real, hard news interview.
>
> Oliver interviewed NY junior Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, who by now is for
> TDS an official "friend of the show" after Stewart has had her one several
> times for very laudatory appearances. The first segment last night was
> similar in tone to those, complimenting her good work on trying to fight
> sexual assault in the military. In the second segment he switches to the
> Historic and Ongoing Wall Street Scandal. He starts with kind of a general
> question, and she gives a general, standard center-left Democratic answer.
> Then, without really changing his tone or giving us much of a warning, he
> asks her a really direct, specific and tough question:
>
> "Help me understand the relationship between banks and politics, because
> on the Venn diagram of that, you are right in the middle. You were the
> number one recipient of money from Goldman Sachs in 2011 to 2012 for all
> sitting congressmen. JPMorgan was your number two corporate donor over the
> last five years. What I deeply want to know is, what do you have to do for
> that? What is required of you for that money? Because it makes me
> uncomfortable."
>
> Later, he says:
>
> "The thing that concerns me is the money and the politics thing, because
> it's chicken and egg. Are there opinions that you have on Wall Street, do
> you get the money because you already have those opinions, or do you need
> those opinions to get the money?"
>
> She deflected both questions deftly, like the skilled politician and
> former high-powered securities lawyer that she is, pivoting to her support
> of public financing for US elections. She also mentioned, appropriately,
> that she represents New York, the implication being that it is not unusual
> that she would get donations from major interests in her state.
>
> In the third segment, on the web (see:
> http://www.thedailyshow.com/extended-interviews), Oliver continued,
> mentioning that she took $86,000 from Goldman Sachs, then asking "Is there
> anything we can do to have you not take that money?"
>
> He mentions that it might be easy to ask these kinds of questions of
> politicians that he does not like, but that he really does like her, and
> wanted to understand why someone like her is taking so much money in ways
> that are clearly not illegal, but undermine the integrity and confidence
> the public can have in the political process.
>
> He also asked her about a letter she wrote in early 2012 to the leaders of
> five regulatory agencies (see
> http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/gillibrand-enters-volcker-rule-fray/?_r=0)
> about the "Volker Rule", in which she seems to be opposed to it, or at
> least to specifications that would allow it to be enforced rigorously (The
> Volker Rule is part of Dood-Frank, and bans proprietary trading by
> commercial banks).
>
> The part about the letter illustrates why it is hard to get into the
> substance of complex issues like this in any short form television
> interview. Oliver stumbled a bit when he summarized her position as being
> against the Volker Rule, which allowed her to say that no, she was in favor
> of it. In fact, she did vote for Dodd-Frank, and she did support the Volker
> Rule, but the question is, is she also trying to get the details of its
> enforcement provisions to be written in a way that are as loose and
> sympathetic to the interests of Wall Street as possible? The questions
> Oliver was trying to get her to answer basically these:
>
> 1a: Is she trying to water down Wall Street regulations like the Volker
> Rule because she has taken so much money from Wall Street, or
>
> 1b: Does Wall Street give her so much money because they know she
> genuinely believes in watering down regulations of their activity?
>
> 2. Even if the answer is 1b, wouldn't congress be more ethical, less
> sleazy and inspire more confidence if representatives refused to take so
> much money from the large interests they regulate?
>
> Like Oliver and Stewart, I generally do like Gillibrand. But if you don't
> ask these tough questions of people you like, you can't really ask them of
> people you do not like with much integrity. Also, Gillibrand is not really
> the kind of soft-hearted do-gooder she sometimes appears to be in the
> national media (I don't know what her NY persona is). She was a partner in
> David Boise's Law Firm, and represented among others Phillip Morris. That
> does not make her a bad person (if I had legal problems, and a shit load of
> money, I would want David Boise to be my lawyer) but it does make her a
> very, very hard assed, high powered attorney.
>

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