On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 3:38 AM, JW <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Once again: this occurred during a *podcast*. Not during a news program.
> > Not during anything that even looks like a news program. A *podcast*. And
> > by someone that no one has ever, *ever* suggested is a part of ESPN's
> > news-gathering operation.
>
> I'm less of a Simmons fan than some people (including whoever titled this
> thread), and I found myself agreeing with a lot of what Lipsyte said, if
> not his conclusion.
>
> What's impressive is that ESPN continues to run the Van Natta/Van
> Valkenberg investigative pieces even as they suspend Simmons for voicing
> the obvious conclusions from them.
>
> Of course, it's easier to suspend Simmons during the NBA offseason. My
> question is how representative the Goodell comments are of the podcast. Was
> this a step or two beyond how far Simmons usually goes, or is the "problem"
> just that Goodell is the target? As long as the podcast and Grantland fall
> under the ESPN brand, the company has some responsibility for their
> content. I have to be convinced that this discipline is for more than ESPN
> trying to patch up its relationship with the Commissioner, though.
>

As I noted earlier, I detest Simmons - I mean I really, really hate him and
his whole act. But in this case I think he is in the right, and ESPN is
simply getting what they deserve from the monster they created.

Simmons was not suspended for 3 weeks because he used profanity in his
podcast, he does this with some frequency (the podcast is called the "B.S.
Report"). The explicit reason he was suspended was because he called
Goodell a liar in violation of "ESPN's journalistic standards". The jokes
that could be made about ESPN's journalistic standards are infinite, but
suffice it to note what almost everyone else has, which is that BS got a
300% longer suspension for calling Goodell a liar (a conclusion supported
if not proved by the little bit of actual reporting the network does engage
in) than Stephen A. got for saying that Ray Rice's girlfriend did something
to provoke him into punching her in the jaw and knocking her unconscious.

What makes the podcast context relevant here is not that ESPN has no
appropriate supervision of its content, but that the content on the podcast
has long been substantially different than what appears on ESPN's
television air, on in columns on ESPN.com. Simmon's himself is much more
careful about what he says in his column; the podcast is where he lets it
all hang out (and again, I detest what he hangs out, and I would be happy
if ESPN just fired the guy and was able to shut down his obnoxious, unfunny
voice for good - just not for this). To put it bluntly, Simmons is not a
journalist, though he tries to be in his columns, but does not even try on
his podcast.

Obviously Simmons was not suspended for using profanity, or for calling
someone a liar without evidence that would meet the standards of proof in a
perjury trial. He was suspended for two reasons: He called *Roger Goodell*
a liar (ESPN's billion dollar business partner, and the man that allow ESPN
to grab the cable industry and much of America by the short pubic hairs and
shake as much money out of them as possible) and - just as importantly, and
maybe close to the same thing - because Simmons publicly dared ESPN to fire
him, challenging ESPN President John Skipper's authority.

Aside from the content that spews out of Simmon's mouth or keyboard, which
for the most part is full of banal observations and jokes he and his drunk
friends think funny, the real point of his existence at ESPN is to make the
public think that ESPN is something other than an uptight corporate machine
that prints shit loads of money by carrying the water of the largest and
most profitable sports corporations in the world. He is supposed to be an
everyman lose cannon who says what he, and the legions of working stiff,
Joe lunchbox sports fans (who apparently ESPN thinks are still mostly
misogynistic and homophobic) really thinks. ESPN eats this crap up and
banks the cash it generates, except on those few occasions when Simmons
actually says or thinks something of substance about sports - then they try
to shut him up. And every once in a while, I guess to sustain his
credibility among his Joe lunchbox public, Simmons feels the need to
intentionally drop a bag of dog shit on Skipper's front porch, just to
prove he can.

The best possible outcome for me here would be that Simmon's quits in a
huff to prove his independence, showing what a bunch of hypocrites ESPN is,
and then disappears into obscurity, showing what a creature of Bristol he
has always been.

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