First episode of Join or Die free on iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/historys-biggest-political/id1080024262?i=1081867952
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:00 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Comparing the two episodes of Join or Die from last night I think > emphasizes Tom's second point. Not only was the expert in the second > episode more effective on the topic (medical advice), but the show > explained each of the examples at the beginning of the episode before the > panel started. If that wasn't enough, the two non-experts on the panel, > Chris Hardwick (Talking Dead/@midnight) and Jordan Carlos (Nightly Show), > have experience either being on panels or hosting them. It's much more > coherent than the first episode on political blunders. > I am arguably the biggest Craig fan on the list, but the criticism about > the show being unfocused and arbitrary is not as bad as it appeared in > print. I think this has a lot to do with Tom's other point, which Craig has > carried over into Join or Die. He does seem focused on having fun with the > guests and having a conversation over any notions of properly weighing each > of the six candidates in an episode. I think the show should drop the > notion of dumping two choices each after the first and second act and just > make sure to discuss all of them in the 22 minutes. > > I think it's worth noting that the monologues that open the show are > strongly reminiscent of his Late Late Show monologues. They are a bit more > focused, but the delivery and sense of whimsy are there in full. > > History is apparently premiering a slate of programs in a similar vein to > Join or Die, that is slightly askew examinations of historical topics. > What little I've seen of the shows suggests they are more expensive than > Join or Die (unless Craig is getting a lot of $). > > David > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Wolper <twol...@gmail.com> > *To:* TV or not TV <tvornottv@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 3:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] The Late Show with that Scottish Conan Guy > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:06 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < > tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hmm. Well, if the general problem described here isn't managed better by > episode 6, the remainder of the 22 episodes may be burned off early > Saturday mornings. Variety seems to be of a similar opinion as THR: > > > http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/join-or-die-with-craig-ferguson-review-history-channel-1201706475/ > Wilmore and his staff eventually tightened up The Nightly Show panels, but > they had the benefit of early feedback on shows. I also think they didn't > suffer from the same kind of topic problem that Join or Die seems to have. > > > When I first saw Celebrity Name Game I was disappointed and figured it > would quietly go away. I don't watch whole episodes now, only snippets when > other shows are in commercial break, but it seems like Craig is bringing > more energy and focusing the show on having fun with guests rather than > managing a serious competition. As long as the show is cheap enough to > make, I think the History Channel will keep it going and let it develop. > > Also it seems a weakness in the early shows submitted to reviewers that > the expert on the panel isn't necessarily qualified. It may be the case in > the future that they can recruit better experts when they have a track > record. > > -- > -- > TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
