somewhat related: I watched the Washington Correspondent's Dinner speech by Larry Wilmore, and he had a good crack about a black guy replacing Brian Williams.
That said, if you are going to watch either Larry's speech or Barack's, watch Barack's. He was MUCH funnier than Larry. On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:13 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I attended a session at a psychology convention last week with Dr. > Elizabeth Loftus of UC Irvine, the world's premier expert on false memory. > Her first slide was a photograph of Brian Williams, followed by one of > Hillary Clinton. She then played a 90 second tape from her answering > service of some guy deriding her for having explained William's false > reports as consistent with what we know about how normal memory works. The > room full of about 500 psychologists, graduate and undergraduate students > all laughed - at the caller. > > What I wrote when the story first broke (see below) was that every > psychologist who taught anything related to memory understood Williams's > memory mistakes and illusions to be within the normal range of human > experience. Loftus is a cognitive and really social psychologist - she is a > little less interested in individual differences, but did present some data > that certain kinds of people are more likely to experience false memory in > certain kinds of situations. So it is possible (we need better research on > this), that narcissistic or maybe extroverted, attention-seeking people are > more likely to experience false memories that over dramatize themselves. > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:47 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I guarantee you that there is at least one psychology professor at every >> college and university in the college doing exactly what I am doing today, >> which is grabbing video and images and text about this event to integrate >> into my lectures on the fallibility and social construction of human >> memory. This is essentially the same thing that happened to Hillary in >> 2008, and her mis-remembering of dodging bullets on the tarmac. It is also >> the same thing that every single one of us does at least once a week, >> telling a story after dinner, or over drinks to buddies, elaborating and >> distorting events to make them more interesting, more flattering, shorter, >> longer, easier to remember or more consistent with the current context. >> Yes, some of this is intentional and conscious exaggeration, bordering on >> lying, but most of it happens at a non-conscious level. >> >> That is not to excuse Williams. A journalist more than most should be >> wary of the limits of human memory, and the importance of accuracy, and >> double check facts before reporting on air important events. And, to Joe's >> point, we would like to see credible journalists (that is, journalists >> interested in retaining their credibility) being more reluctant to report >> stories in which they themselves at the subject - and when they do, they >> must be doubly concerned with accuracy, and with checking the all too human >> tendency to inflate their own role in any story. >> >> I don't think that firing is a proportional response; I guess if NBC News >> wanted to suspend him for a week that would signify that they were taking >> it seriously. The problem is that the penalty for this kind of think should >> be that the population of news consumers downgrades Williams as a source of >> accurate and credible news; but in the last decade or two credibility has >> ceased to be a defining characteristic of any news source. Even with this >> flaw, Williams and NBC are a more credible source of news that anything >> available on cable. >> >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Two paths seems to be emerging. >>> >>> 1. Some great mocking at Williams: >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/02/04/brian-williams-faces-fierce-mockery-after-recanting-iraq-war-story/ >>> and >>> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-brian-williams-social-media-20150204-htmlstory.html >>> >>> 2. A sense that Williams should be disciplined, if not outright fired, >>> for this (primarily from the journalism watchers): >>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/rieder/2015/02/05/brian-williams-unmitigated-disaster/22915325/ >>> and >>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/04/brian-williams-taints-his-brand.html >>> >>> I know I raised in this forum a question about Williams and how he >>> sometimes seems to skate the line between a member of a news organization >>> and an entertainer, only to be convinced by the panel I was being >>> oversensitive about it. Fundamentally, this isn't a huge deal. But that >>> voice that was silenced way back when is kinda screaming back at me that >>> this is the kind of crap it was talking about. >>> >>> On Thu Feb 05 2015 at 9:00:18 AM Bob Jersey <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> He apologized Wednesday (4) >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33RSg9CBtUY> ('toob) for having said >>>> on NBC's telecast of an NHL game as part of a ceremony honouring a >>>> servicemember* -* and in 2013 to Dave - that a chopper he was in while >>>> covering Iraq fighting in 2003 got hit by enemy fire... the US >>>> military-newser Stars and Stripes busted him >>>> <http://www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-s-brian-williams-recants-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792> >>>> (link) after gripes from three actual occupants of the attacked craft that >>>> he was in a different chopper... >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> TV or Not TV .... 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