I am actually starting to dislike it less and less...and maybe even like
it. Certainly episodes 3-6 are far better than the horrible episodes 1-2.

I do share some of Kevin’s concerns. It is not clear to my why it was
important to position Discovery so shortly before TOS in what I understand
to be the prime timeline. They could have made it 10 years after, created a
new alien race to be the main antagonist, and done most of what they seem
to be doing. I guess we have to trust that they are planning on providing
some link-up with Spock back story, and with Klingon back story, that they
think will make sense (though for now it seems every step in that direction
is mostly undermining things already established in TOS universe prime). We
have already seen enough tech in Discovery not available to Kirk’s era (and
some of which was later available to Picard) that it is almost inevitable
that at some point the world of Discovery has to be some kind of cul de
sac, in which Star Fleet orders some kind of embargo on everything about
Discovery and forces the next generation of star ships to evolve on their
own without benefit of the tech Discovery had.

While I at this point do not like the discontinuities in the tech, I also
do not like the emphasis on the mystical, religious and quasi-magical
elements of both Vulcan and Klingon culture in Discovery, that moves this
show in my view closer to fantasy than sci-fi.  These elements were not
unknown in TOS or TNG, but they were not so central. For my, Roddenberry
Star Trek is always about the relationship (sometimes conflicted) between
humanity and science, sometimes often framed as emotion or intuition and
rationality or logic. Vulcan mysticism was used occasionally as an example
of one way of reconciling those tensions - and as periodic plot rescuing
devices. But Discovery seems to want to make these elements a core part of
what is going on. That is not my Star Trek Jam.

I do really dig Sonequa Martin, and several others of the cast are great.
I have not yet found any other use for the horrid CBS app, though there are
a few nice films I have already seen but might watch again.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:32 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:

> I cancelled my month-long free pass to CBS All Access after week three or
> four. Discovery isn't worth paying for. The effects are good, and there are
> some decent actors in it, but it isn't good sci-fi, and it surely isn't
> good Trek.
>
> Can the next Star Trek NOT be a prequel or a reboot? Please? I've said
> before that it is so much easier to write an origin story than to come up
> with an original idea that advances the "universe." Discovery fails even as
> an origin story, since -- unlike Star Trek: Enterprise -- there are no ties
> to what is to come. We now have not one but two different Kirks, Spocks,
> and McCoys, and Discovery has nothing to do with the build-up to either of
> them.
>
> I'd have preferred Axanar.
>
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