On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 6:38 PM Darren Glass <[email protected]> wrote:
> This seems like a weird complaint to make on a thread about the CW. To > me, Legends of Tomorrow absolutely embraces the fun silly side of superhero > stories, and both The Flash and Supergirl are fun and upbeat much more > often than they’re not. I agree that too much superhero stuff these days > is dark and brooding, but I think the CW has done a good job of keeping > things light on a lot of these shows. > Admittedly in most cases I don’t make it past the misery and angst of the pilot episodes. Supergirl I’ve seen more of, and though there is humor, the lead is almost always sulking over a love she lost or living a dual life or blah blah blah. Same with Flash, who was always the happiest of the old JLA. You have super powers... cheer the f*ck up and quit making it seem like a curse. > > On May 16, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Remember when superheroes were upbeat and optimistic instead of dark and > brooding? A bad guy would enter into the story, and you didn’t need to know > why he chose a life of crime; he was just bad and needed to be stopped, and > the superhero stopped him. Nobody cried. And it was all done with roughly > 90% less explosions and special effects. There was dialogue. > > I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any dark and brooding superheroes, but > can’t we be allowed one or two heroic bits of hope and optimism? One of my > favorite episodes of “Babylon 5” was in the midst of the Shadow War, which > was also in the midst of the civil war on Earth, G’Kar helped one of the > guest stars stop a band of thieves. No palace intrigue... no shades of > grey. “We were the good guys,” G’Kar said. “They were the bad guys,” > adding, “And they made a very satisfying thump when they hit the ground.” > It isn’t that I dislike complex or even dark tales, but that doesn’t mean I > can’t also appreciate something simple and upbeat, too. > > Nope, even Archie comic characters have be dark and edgy. And Nancy Drew > can’t just solve mysteries because it is fun and she is smart. No, we need > to see her cry first. I swear, if they remake Scooby Doo again, Shaggy will > be a meth addict, Velma will be sexually assaulted by Freddie in the back > of the Mystery Machine, and Daphne will be a hooker with a heart of gold. > Jinkies. > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:10 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The network that doesn't need no stinkin' Nielsens when it has social >> media love and Netflix deals (and Netflix isn't renewing, the new shows >> will be individually shopped, probably either on CBS All Access or the new >> WarnerMedia streamer) still has six nights of prime time (along with >> Saturday mornings farmed out to 4Kids and Springer reruns in daytime and >> it's pretty much what you expect from the C-Dub, except that the >> critically-acclaimed shows are both gone of their own accord (that would be >> "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" and "Jane the Virgin"). The lineup from the Wrap, >> with new shows in caps: >> >> SUNDAY >> 8-9 p.m. — “BATWOMAN”--Ruby Rose is Bruce Wayne's niece Kate Kane (Easter >> egg, DC geeks), who is picking up the cudgel for her cousin while he has >> mysteriously disappeared from Gotham City. And oh yes--she likes the >> girls. Greg Berlanti's Arrowverse continues apace. All CW scripted shows >> are in-house CBS and Warners. >> 9-10 p.m. — “Supergirl” >> >> MONDAY >> 8-9 p.m. — “All American” (new night) >> 9-10 p.m. — “Black Lightning” >> >> TUESDAY >> 8-9 p.m. — “The Flash” >> 9-10 p.m. — “Arrow” (new night) >> >> WEDNESDAY >> 8-9 p.m. — “Riverdale” >> 9-10 p.m. — “NANCY DREW”--The plucky girl detective hasn't been on TV >> since Pamela Sue Martin played her on ABC in the late 70s (and got fired >> from "The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries" because the network wanted to >> pander to Shaun Cassidy fans). This incarnation from "Gossip Girl" >> creators Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage is going to be a lot like >> "Riverdale," as in dark, dark, dark (as Edward Stratemeyer, the original >> "Carolyn Keene," spins in his grave). Our Nancy is going to take time off >> from sleuthing to go to college, but after her mother dies and she >> witnesses the death of a fellow student, she's back on the case. Kennedy >> McMann is Nancy and Scott Wolf is her father Carson. Martin is playing in >> the pilot a character named Harriet Grosset (there's an Easter egg for >> you). In-house on the CBS side. >> >> THURSDAY >> 8-9 p.m. — “Supernatural”--The one constant in the C-Dub's history (the >> show started on The WB) is finally coming to an end this season. >> 9-10 p.m. — “Legacies” >> >> FRIDAY >> 8-9 p.m. — “Charmed” (new night) >> 9-10 p.m. — “Dynasty” >> >> One mid-season show (it may even show up next summer, as the net wants to >> expand their summer schedule beyond the magic shows, "Whose Line" and >> overseas pickups of recent years): >> >> 'KATY KEENE"--An obscure Archie Comics character is the focus of what's >> described as a spinoff of "Riverdale" (with Josie of the Pussycats as >> played by Ashleigh Murray carrying over from the parent, in the same >> universe as "Riverdale" and "Sabrina's Chilling Adventures"). C-Dub fave >> Lucy Hale plays apprentice fashionista Katy, hanging in New York with Josie >> and her buds and trying to get a foothold in the fashion industry. Josie's >> trying to make it in music and hooks up with the sinister Alexander Cabot >> and his twin sister Alexandra (the heavies from the Josie comic books and >> the "Josie and the Pussycats" animated series). There's also a subplot >> involving something sounding like Andy Warhol's Factory, which makes this >> not your mother's Archie Comics. Like the other shows, Berlanti and Archie >> Comics chief Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa are the main forces. In-house from CBS >> and Warners. >> >> And that's all for another year or until the television networks as we >> know them cease to exist. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/defeb3f2-4c0a-4593-a20b-12965c988f8c%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/defeb3f2-4c0a-4593-a20b-12965c988f8c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Kevin M. 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