Again, I am the opposite. At times I detest Hayes; he doesn’t just know he’s on television, he thinks he is Phil Donahue. The show he does with a studio audience makes me cringe, but it just shows that he hears the audience reaction in his head even without it. Rachel is a Diva, but also almost as smart as she thinks she is, and for me the hit rate on her monologues is high enough to make them an asset.
As noted by Stan Kevin’s take on her is just factually incorrect, she was a snarky critic of both the Bush and Obama administrations. But there is something to it, and it illustrates the challenge Trump has posed to all news organizations. How would even Eric Sevareid (or, whoever) cover in a neutral way a president whose essence is so relentlessly opposed to core national values and norms? I think we know it’s not possible. Trump transforms everyone into either a cheerleader or a resister. On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 3:35 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote: > For me, it's not the preaching to the choir; that's one of the reasons I > tune into the network (in spite of its preponderance of centrists and > former Republicans; I mean, I like Nicole Wallace, but ...). My problem > with Maddow is that she's a lawyer and an academic, and treats her program > like she's teaching a class or appealing to a jury, so she goes on long, > long rants that take forever to get to the point. She's much better on talk > shows, where she's forced to be succinct. I even liked her podcast on the > crimes of Spiro Agnew, since it was so focused. > > I much prefer Hayes's show; he understands that he's on television and > treats his program accordingly. > > --Dave Sikula > > On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 9:18:18 PM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: > >> Rachel Maddow has been doing the MSNBC show since 2008, so her style >> isn’t really a product of the current administration. >> >> As far as preaching to the choir, the three major “cable” news nets all >> do that. The last time there was unbiased cable news, “CNN2” was doing >> headlines. >> >> -Stan >> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-5 Doug Eastick wrote: >> >>> If you want snark, watch Brian Williams in the 11pm (ET) slot. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri., Nov. 20, 2020, 12:15 a.m. Kevin M., <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I watched it. It’s the first time I watched Maddow since her fake Trump >>>> tax “bombshell” several years ago. It was clear she spoke from the heart, >>>> and I empathized with her as I watched it, and none of it had any place on >>>> what is ostensibly a news program. I don’t have any animosity towards her; >>>> her show’s style is a byproduct of Trump, where snark and informality get >>>> in get in the way of news and information. Her personality is the bulk of >>>> her show... her perspective. And I wish both she and her beloved Susan (as >>>> opposed to my beloved Susan) all the best, but her type of show is just >>>> awful to me. I just don’t see the point of a prime time series that does >>>> nothing but preach to the choir. >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/maddowblog/status/1329613581621612551?s=21 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:50 PM Doug Eastick <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It was a pretty Real and Personal 9 minutes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu., Nov. 19, 2020, 10:18 p.m. Steve Timko, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-rachel-maddow-828b442412e08d9c069e38d58342f63d >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yyCG7Yp8tk_K%3Dve9ii9PK_7SBS64warFGFKR3onCueMpw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yyCG7Yp8tk_K%3Dve9ii9PK_7SBS64warFGFKR3onCueMpw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAK5Q1BpJ5UNJshAy%3DXG3MPutctfWhEedK2%2BfHCqntFD3vkuhWg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAK5Q1BpJ5UNJshAy%3DXG3MPutctfWhEedK2%2BfHCqntFD3vkuhWg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kevin M. 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