As someone who grew up in Pacoima, I appreciated the mention in Ellison’s piece.
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 12:06 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > This thread reminded me of this story from Harlan Ellison’s “The Glass > Teat” a collection of his TV column from the LA Freep. Ellison was there > for the taping of the pilot episode... as usual, he had something to say > about it.* > > *I tried sending these images directly to the group, but apparently the > files were too large, so I posted them to my podcast Facebook page. > > https://www.facebook.com/1646952628915360/posts/2931846270425983/?d=n > > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 8:57 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Exactly. I was going to write that a week, or even a year, *after* it >> premiered people were saying you could not make a show like that. I >> remember lots of conversations and arguments at my house among my parents >> friends about this. We watched it every week, but my mother fretted about >> the kind of people who did take it as a glorification of bigotry. >> >> But the real reason you could not make a show like that today is not for >> fear of offending politically correct liberals. Such a show would >> inevitably be about a Middle Aged Trump supporter and his AOC voting >> daughter, and perhaps her trans woman lesbian wife, (if I remember my >> geography correctly from when my daughter lived in Astoria, a few miles >> from Archie’s house). The show could not be done both because of the howls >> of protest from Trumpists, and because, unlike Nixon, Trump very >> predictably has ended in very unfunny violence and sedition. >> >> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 10:25 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:05 PM Marti Lawrence <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A truly groundbreaking program, and so subtle in exposing ingrained >>>> attitudes about racism, sexism, and xenophobia. >>>> I remember how "good ol' boys" thought it was hysterical without >>>> realizing it was poking fun at them. I don't think you could make a show >>>> like that today. >>>> >>> >>> I believe if you did a poll the week before All in the Family or Blazing >>> Saddles was released people would say you couldn't make a show or movie >>> like that. In a sense you couldn't make a show like that today because the >>> show crossed lines and managed to do it in a way that was entertaining >>> rather than alienating. The lines aren't drawn today where they were in >>> 1971 and there would be no thrill in crossing those lines. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiGeGLP-co4zoj5-a%3DdmqGzv%2B7XaTQjU64kRAosoRx81_Q%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiGeGLP-co4zoj5-a%3DdmqGzv%2B7XaTQjU64kRAosoRx81_Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BdNi3e0FWhO0MGTiPO_su%3DtkuBravSjpZwhS8tKuJzsg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BdNi3e0FWhO0MGTiPO_su%3DtkuBravSjpZwhS8tKuJzsg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4BYr8rsLP%3Dgi5765g0VskmKSWxWxWFgjY2KUUJkzZpfug%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4BYr8rsLP%3Dgi5765g0VskmKSWxWxWFgjY2KUUJkzZpfug%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKKXivae%2BQKmVydOYWFUPPoq6Jq-DsuSibjSv7iQJG-Jg%40mail.gmail.com.
