I'm pretty sure that it's a cost thing rather than anything else when pre-recorded shows are captioned live. And I suspect that captioning is entirely possible remotely, so I'm not sure how much benefit of the doubt I'd give them for not working as well during the pandemic.
In the UK, we have statutory requirements on subtitling (aka captioning) with upwards of 80% of programming requiring it. In practice, the big broadcasters do everything. As far as I know, only live programming has live captioning. Everything else is done in advance - and quality is regulated too. (There are also requirements of in-vision signing and audio-description). But if you look to streamers like Netflix, Amazon or Disney, they make quite a big play on their captioning. It's a key deliverable alongside the programme, since to make their shows work globally, they need multiple audio and captioning options for those viewers. All of that is before all the other benefits beyond simply assisting viewers who are hard of hearing. So while it might feel like a sometimes unwanted obligation, networks should consider it an opportunity to reach more audiences if they're smart. Adam On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 6:26 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> wrote: > That's an example of why, as someone who used to work as a > closed-captioner, I don't watch captions at all -- one thing that > frustrates me is shows/networks using realtime captioning even when the > show isn't airing live (mainly because it's cheaper). "Lady Antebellum" vs. > "Antonin Scalia" was almost certainly caused by the stenocaptioner having > saved short forms of both names in their steno-machine-to-English > translation software, and then making what was probably a one-character > typo. > > Back in the late '90s, the company I worked for managed to get > fully-edited captions for "The Tonight Show" on the air just over two hours > after each night's taping concluded (it taped from 8:30-9:30 Eastern and > then aired at 11:35), so I know it's possible. > > (I do acknowledge that I'm sure the pandemic has affected > closed-captioning operations in the same way it's affected show production, > so this isn't specifically a "Late Show" complaint -- inferior realtime > captioning being used on non-live programming has been going on a lot > longer than that.) > > > On Apr 8, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Diner <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm using captions more and more, for some of the same reasons. I find > them especially useful on British mysteries, as they help me keep the facts > of the case (including character names) straight. > I've also used captions since the nineties for musical guests on talk > shows, so that I can follow the lyrics. > My favorite captions typo came one night about 18 months ago, when Stephen > Colbert said "Please welcome Lady Antebellum!" and the captions said > "Please welcome Antonin Scalia!" > > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 10:59:15 AM UTC-4 Doug Eastick wrote: > >> our family is now about 50/50 using subtitles. Sometimes due to >> accents, sometimes due to being courteous and keeping volume down, >> sometimes due to excessive noise/chats in the house and wanting to keep >> watching without missing dialogue. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:22 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 3:16 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Granted, the thick accents on Shetland are tough, even for someone who >>>> watches A LOT of UK drama. I have to assume even UK residents need the >>>> subtitles for some scenes. >>>> >>>> >>> Careful Kevin :-) >>> >>> Actually, to British ears the accents on Shetland - the very >>> northernmost point of the UK - are quite soft and accessible. If you really >>> want a British accent that you have to get your "ear in" to understand, >>> it's a broad Glaswegian accent. >>> >>> But us Brits have the same issues with a variety of US accents - the >>> deep south or even a thick Bostonion accent. >>> >>> Anyway, there's a new series of Shetland just entering production which >>> I'm very much looking forward to. >>> >>> On an unrelated note, Shetland is based on a series of novels by the >>> crime writer Ann Cleeves. She also has a series based on another of her >>> detective "Vera", based in the north-east of England. And ITV has just >>> commissioned a third series based on yet another of her detectives which is >>> based is Devon (the far southwest of England). She must be the most >>> successful writer in the UK at having her books adapted by TV at this point >>> since Agatha Christie. 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