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now that i can’t bully people it’s just not as fun - ellen

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 5:53 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:

> She has made a boatload of money off of the show. With the sharp drop in
> viewers, she's probably looking at making much less money.  Why stick
> around?
> Plus, there's examples of people like Johnny Carson and probably Letterman
> hanging around too long.
> Judge Judy is the 800-pound gorilla of afternoon shows. Ellen was No. 2
> and there was no No. 3. Interesting to see if someone can step forward/
> Wendy Liebman is pitching herself as a talk show host.
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 12:35 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Having not watched this show, I don't know how to interpret her state
>>> reason for discontinuing “the show is no longer a creative challenge.” Is
>>> this just a dodge to allow her to deny it is because her “Be Nice” cover
>>> was blown, or is she saying she has been running on automatic?
>>>
>>> She lost 1.1 million viewers in current season - more than a 40% drop.
>>> Is that more or roughly same as comparable daytime talk shows.
>>>
>>
>> When this subject came up last year, I did some research and saw her show
>> had been on the air for 17 years. We have to acknowledge that's an
>> extraordinary amount of time for this genre of daytime talk show. Most of
>> these shows last only a year or two. So when a phenomenon like Ellen shows
>> up the network or syndicator wants to keep the show going at all costs and
>> at each contract negotiation the host gets lots more money and more power.
>> So after 17 years Ellen is getting tons of money to continue. Maybe she's
>> burnt out - when Craig Ferguson made his announcement of leaving the Late
>> Late Show he said he felt like he'd done all he wanted a couple of years
>> before and when he told CBS they gave him an incentive to stay and he did a
>> couple more years without making much of an effort.
>>
>> The other part of those deals is that the show has to continue to put up
>> high numbers. If an agent is pushing Actress X to be the new hot daytime
>> talk show host the network/syndicator has to make the decision: keep Ellen
>> with her high costs and solid ratings or take a chance with X who will come
>> much,much cheaper but might take a long time to reach Ellen ratings or
>> might not ever reach them. With each new contract the pressure rises as the
>> money grows and with the ratings drop they might have come to the point to
>> go cheap and take a chance on a new show.
>>
>> I don't doubt there is some level of burnout with Ellen. The world in
>> general, especially technology and the entertainment business have gone
>> through massive sea changes in the 17 or 18 years she's had her show and
>> keeping up became overwhelming. I won't speculate who initiated ending the
>> show but I don't think it was a big surprise to either side and the side
>> that didn't initiate was relieved.
>>
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