The ridiculous women's volleyball uniforms come from the international
volleyball federation (FIVB). They brought that rule in about 20-25 years
ago. In beach, that means bikini bottoms, in indoor volleyball the women
wear booty shorts, while the men wear regular shorts.

So it wasn't necessarily an NBC decision; although it did come from the
federation in an attempt to make women's volleyball more marketable. It was
ham-handed then, and I agree with you that hopefully this is the last
Olympics for this.

John

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 15:33, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:

> Totally agree about how they present women athletes, both doing a much
> better job, and long overdue. I think they have said this was the first
> year where there are the same number of men and women participating, and
> there are more returning US women medal winners than men. The two highest
> profile US Olympians are women (Biles and swimmer Ledecky [sp?]).
>
> There are still those bikinis for the beach volleyball women, but one has
> to think this is the last year for that, as it is increasingly absurd.
> There has been a lot of attention on social media about the Norwegian Beach
> Handball team (non-Olympic) who were recently fined for wearing shirts
> instead of bikini bottoms.
>
> I watched both the Euro and South American soccer tournaments recently,
> and did notice how well they were covered, which is a great sign. NBC’s
> Primetime coverage of both Gymnastics and Swimming (and probably a few
> other events) has not quite caught up with this. The US did not do as well
> in the pool as they had hoped last night and the tone in the broadcast
> booth was like they were covering a funeral.
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 11:28 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 10:37 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Overall I am digging the way these Olympics are being presented.
>>> Whenever I am tempted to complain about something, I tell myself to STF up,
>>> as my younger self remembers having no choice but to watch partial and very
>>> incomplete US-centric highlights with Jim McKay’s at times jingoistic
>>> commentary.
>>>
>>
>> My observations having spent much less time than you watching the games:
>>
>> First and most welcome is that it finally got through up and down the
>> Olympics and media institutions is to treat and talk about female athletes
>> as athletes. I saw an AP story about how the camera people shooting the
>> video pool footage are instructed not to sexualize their shots of female
>> athletes. One thing I found unwatchable in the past was showcasing gymnasts
>> and synchronized swimmers as performers or princesses rather than athletes
>> who had to give up normal lives in order to train for these events. I
>> sincerely hope that the days of calling an American women's gymnastics
>> champ America's Sweetheart are over unless they also call an American men's
>> decathlon champ that, too.
>>
>> There was a truism from the Roone Arledge days of Olympic coverage that
>> women don't watch sports so the way to get them immersed in the Olympics is
>> to turn athletes' personal stories into soap operas for Up Close and
>> Personal segments. There still seem to be "get to know the athlete"
>> segments but they have been moved into the background. Our collective
>> sports experience, certainly of the last decade, is that women like and
>> watch sports and don't need to be talked down to. NBC also seems to have
>> added more female commentators to mens' sports.
>>
>> I still don't have cable but I saw the NBC Olympics site will give me a
>> 30 minute window to watch highlights. I also subscribe to the NBC Sports
>> YouTube page and they are putting up tons of highlights and not US-centric
>> ones. I can find plenty to watch without having to find a VPN or bothering
>> with pirated streams.
>>
>> As for turning away from being US-centric, it seems that broadcast sports
>> are going that way and it's not killing them in the ratings. ESPN and ABC
>> just had the delayed Euro 2020 competition. FOX and its FS channels had the
>> Copa America (South American national team competition) and now they have
>> the CONCACAF Gold Cup (North America and the Caribbean national team
>> competition). The US team is only playing in the last competition. The
>> announcers of games the US is not in do not constantly make references to
>> the US team so maybe the younger sports watching public has a more balanced
>> international world view.
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