I am not sure what premise you find absurd. My point is simply 1) MSNBC has never been as liberal as Fox is conservative and 2) Changes at MSNBC are going to result in it being even less liberal. I think both of those things really are undeniably true.
Perhaps you mean that none of that matters, as any new outlet with any amount of ideological slant is equally worthless, regardless of degree. With respect, that is the premise that seems absurd to me. There will always be some bias in reporting “facts”, but that does make facts impossible or meaningless. 60% biased is meaningfully better than 99% biased. A news report can be high in objective facts even when presented with an ideological bias. If I am programming the opening segment tonight on a news cast, will it be on the news that the US economy under Biden in 2021 grew substantially more than any previous year since 1984, or that ongoing inflation concerns will likely result in several interest rate increases over the next few months, which may scare the Market and increase mortgage payments on variable rate loans (I have one of those)? A liberal slant might lead with and emphasize the first, a conservative might do the reverse. But both would be accurate, and assuming they also accurately report the other story, even if with less time and emphasis, but would qualify I think as credible newscasts. My point is that Fox has always been a place where on any given night it is possible if not likely that only one of those stories get reported accurately. MSNBC is (with a few exceptions) not that kind of place, and in fact a significant number of their programs are likely to lead with the Inflation story. On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 10:27 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > This is all an absurd premise. The gathering of information, reporting of > facts, and contextual analysis can all be done in a nonpartisan way. The > fact MSNBC isn’t as guilty of partisanship as Fox is not an excuse. > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 9:48 AM M-D November <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> We can only hope this is more of a balancing act and less an act of 'both >> sides'-ism (TM Don Lemon). >> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 9:09:50 AM UTC-5 PGage wrote: >> >>> I prefer straight news of course. But MSNBC has never been an equally >>> but opposite ideologically slanted operation to Fox, and that is about to >>> get even more true. >>> >>> Stephanie Ruhle, former derivatives super sales woman at Credit Suisse, >>> Hedge Fund specialist at Deutsche Bank and staffer at Bloomberg Television, >>> and NBC’s Financial Correspondent, is taking her “Enlightened Capitalist” >>> Act from MSNBC’s 9:00 am hour to the 11:00 pm hour that, IMO, Brian >>> Williams made the best hour on cable television news. Morning Joe, the >>> horrific bastion of establishment Center-Right conventional wisdom and >>> Insider Name Dropping, will enlarge to take over Ruhle’s 9:00 am slot. >>> >>> If Nicole Wallace (as good as she is) takes over for Rachel, MSNBC will >>> be going into the Midterm elections significantly more Center-Right >>> leaning. And being biased towards the Center is not the same thing as being >>> unbiased or objective, it is very much a strong ideological bias and slant >>> itself. >>> >>> Again, the ideal is not to be as Left leaning as Fox is Right, but there >>> is something irritating, and probably dangerous, about the persistent myth >>> that since they are both equally biased, both can be equally disdained and >>> dismissed. >>> >>> >>> https://www.axios.com/stephanie-ruhle-replace-brian-williams-host-b4118537-0d00-4e60-8eb9-fe7b9977e854.html >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/da355cc4-03ef-4574-9d78-cb4de871446dn%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/da355cc4-03ef-4574-9d78-cb4de871446dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Kevin M. (RPCV) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CosFsjEvmbz3A4A0KKJ9NDZhnfutZiC4hNf2he9zDq6A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CosFsjEvmbz3A4A0KKJ9NDZhnfutZiC4hNf2he9zDq6A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2B3x24nfKdREws3ov%2B4TpkcPUdJT7b8Hx_y5pc1MY2JOA%40mail.gmail.com.
