I liked it more than you did, but in the interest of offering consistent commentary, I couldn't help noticing that the baby in the movie was wearing an outfit with modern sleeves.
As you may recall, I complained here about the modern neckline of the prison outfits worn by the stars of *The Trial of the Chicago 7*. What's with Sorkin's choice of costume designer? Authenticity isn't a priority? On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 1:33 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I finally watched this tonight (one of my aging patients told me this week > that he identified with what JK’s Frawley says about something dying in a > man when young women call him old, so I wanted to see it for myself). > > As a die hard Sorkin fan, I have to say it was really not very good. I > know Sorkin haters dislike it because they think it is typical Sorkin, but > I disliked it because it was not Sorkin enough. It feels more like an > imposter trying to write like Sorkin. Was also not impressed by the two > lead actors, though the supporting cast was excellent. > > What made the whole experience worthwhile (in addition to being able to > check back with my patient with integrity) was the amazing Nina Arianda. I > just binged Goliath a few weeks ago and fell hard for her, and she steals > the show here. The movie I want to see is the Lucy and Vivian story, not > the tired Lucy and Desi tale. > > On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 10:35 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Kidman/Sorkin's use of "gaslighting" is the least of this film's sins. >> >> I've watched 452 films this year. "Being the Ricardos" is one of the >> worst. It's appalling from start to finish. >> >> --Dave Sikula >> >> On Saturday, December 25, 2021, 07:48:20 PM PST, PGage <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> I did not know that the Twitter condemnation of Sorkin putting the term >> in Lucy’s mouth was Roxane Gay, but she is exactly the person I imagined >> making a thing of this, and what triggered my irritation. >> >> My introduction to “gaslight” as a term was through my parents and >> grandparents, who were fans of the film and used the phrase occasionally in >> casual conversation as early as the late 1960s (as far back as my awareness >> of such things would allow me to remember). I read about the term in the >> “Culture and Personality” book referenced by Yagoda, though my copy, which >> I got at a used bookstore in the late 1970s, was the second edition >> published in 1970, so I was not aware until I read the linked article here >> that the 1st edition was in the first half of the 1960s. >> >> I have not seen the Ricardos, and so do not know what the context was for >> its use. If one were to argue that it was less likely that someone in the >> 1950s would casually use the term than someone in the 20-teens, then okay, >> that’s no doubt true. But to argue there is “no way” someone would use the >> term in the 1950s is, I think, demonstrably wrong. Not that one can ever >> tell Roxane Gay she is wrong about anything. >> >> >> >> On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 9:17 AM Diner <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This 2017 article by Ben Yagoda (updated yesterday) should be the last >> word on "gaslighting" as a verb. >> https://benyagoda.com/2021/12/24/gaslighting-again/ >> >> >> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 1:06:39 PM UTC-5 Brad Beam wrote: >> >> My go-to says the earliest documented use of the word (as a common verb) >> is 1969. >> >> https://wordsmith.org/words/gaslight.html >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Kevin M. >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 23, 2021 12:52 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Being The Ricardos >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 9:25 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What is the argument for the side that says “gaslight” would not have >> been used in the 1950s? There was a famous film titled “Gaslight” released >> in 1944. Does Twitter think everything was invented in the last ten years? >> >> >> >> Nobody’s disputing the existence of the film; the dispute seems to be >> whether “gaslighting” would’ve been a commonly used figure of speech in >> that era. I’ve yet to see an instance of its use in media of that time >> period, though I’ve not been actively researching it. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 7:41 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 6:03 AM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> One thing that really stuck in my craw is Sorkin having CBS executive >> Clark Gregg saying something to the effect of “…if we tape a show Friday >> night.” >> >> >> >> No one would have referred to “taping” a TV show in 1952. Videotape had >> literally just been invented, and videotape equipment that was suitable for >> broadcast use wasn’t introduced until 1956. >> >> >> >> Steve Allen used to joke that he’d shout “stop tape” when something >> went wrong on his incarnation of The Tonight Show… it was a joke precisely >> because his shows were live and tape hadn’t been used for that purpose yet. >> >> >> >> There is also a debate on Twitter over whether “gaslight” would’ve been >> used as an expression in the 1950s. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 23, 2021, at 1:53 AM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Better acting than I was expecting. Story and writing were ok, but — as >> stated here multiple times — I don’t like stories told in flashback. JK was >> a dynamite “Fred”. -- >> >> Kevin M. 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