On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 6:25 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > If it helps, I have not seen Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow once since the > invasion started. >
I’m sure that helps you > On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 at 6:10 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You make my point for me. Experts are now available online without a >> network filter. Survivor and victim accounts are also available. If I’m >> going to try to stomach Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow, they need to offer >> something I can’t get elsewhere. >> >> Like you, I’ve turned to TV during Breaking News throughout my life, too. >> But now I not only don’t miss it, but feel I’m better informed by virtue of >> not watching it. >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 6:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> While there is something to your critique, I think it is overly harsh. I >>> have seen several recognized experts on both Russia and Ukraine interviewed >>> many times, providing both general context but also targeted context and >>> analysis if minute by minute events. They have interviewed Ukrainians >>> getting out, and those staying. They have video, and interviews, with >>> officials from surrounding nations, NATO, and the EU. Yes, I have seen much >>> of this online as well, but television news has, during my lifetime, been >>> an import supplement to print journalism, and institutional, legacy media >>> are an essential counterweight to much of the freelance reporting one sees >>> on Social Media, which has less concern with its reputation and >>> credibility. >>> >>> I’m not saying we would be blind without linear television news, but >>> there would be a hole. >>> >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 at 5:54 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 1:47 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote >>>> . >>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> What would happen if there were no more “linear” television outlets on >>>>> stories like these? I read the papers often during the day, and the AP, >>>>> and >>>>> Twitter, but there would be a huge hole without television news >>>>> organizations with ongoing assets in the field. Will Amazon or Hulu be >>>>> doing that down the road? I guess I will have to get CNN+ >>>>> >>>> >>>> Really? A huge hole? What context are TV news providing? What, other >>>> than the instantaneous visuals of explosions, are they contributing to the >>>> story? I’m unaware of any experts on Ukraine employed by CNN or MSNBC… they >>>> might exist, but I can’t imagine they prepared for this eventuality, even >>>> though Putin has been preparing for this for more than a decade so they had >>>> plenty of time to develop sources and establish solid connections to the >>>> region. >>>> >>>> I haven’t watched any TV coverage, and I don’t feel I’m missing out. I >>>> have friends in the area, so I can see any immediate events on social >>>> media. For context there are stories from AP and BBC. Both NPR and >>>> MarketPlace have done a decent job explaining the impact of war in the >>>> region on US economy and life. I fail to see any advantage in whatever CNN >>>> or MSNBC might be bloviating about. >>>> >>>> I’m taking this war personally. I was in Kazakhstan 20 years ago when >>>> Putin murdered a school full of men, women, and children in Beslan. And I >>>> watched when he attacked Crimea. And Georgia. He’s patient and methodical, >>>> and the so called international community has let him get away with this >>>> crap over and over again. The US isn’t a moral leader anymore, and we’re on >>>> the cusp of ceasing to be a superpower, but we could still be acting >>>> against Putin with more than economic sanctions. As could a dozen other >>>> nations. >>>> >>>> Putin won’t stop until he’s forcibly removed from office or >>>> assassinated. That’s the reality. Even if he’s convinced to stop attacking >>>> Ukraine, he will shift targets or wait until we are distracted and strike >>>> again. The TV news media is too dumbed down and too political to cover this >>>> situation with any degree of quality or depth. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK7D6hT7SF-BOS%3DS233RxsL1BNG4OfO75UA1YqqpXS7dQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK7D6hT7SF-BOS%3DS233RxsL1BNG4OfO75UA1YqqpXS7dQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kevin M. 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