That’s about the worst analysis I’ve seen yet. He won a Grammy for material that mocked his own behavior. CK didn’t rehabilitate himself or his career; his career merely shifted course. He’s an ass. The people who nominated and voted for him are the same ilk as those who gave Will Smith a standing ovation. It’s why all these award shows need to go away or at least go back to being private, industry events. It’s not even that we are seeing how the sausage is made; it is that we are seeing how amoral the sausage makers truly are, and the more we see that, the more people will go vegan.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 5:14 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Alyssa Rosenberg at the WaPo has it about right (extended fair use > excerpts below): > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/05/louis-ck-grammy-not-a-defeat-for-metoo/ > > “It’s natural to feel a flare of disgust when a disgraced man is given a > shot at a professional comeback — and there’s no doubt that was the > reaction of many viewers when Louis C.K. won best comedy album at the > Grammys this past weekend.But C.K.’s triumph is no outrage. It might even > be a sign of a healthy new normal… > > Deciding which offenders deserve career rehabilitation and under which > circumstances will always be fraught. But in C.K.’s case, the entertainment > industry seems to have gotten it right… > > The results aren’t always going to be satisfactory. But acknowledging a > performer’s enormous talents while limiting his ability to make full use of > them seems a fair punishment. Louis C.K.’s Grammy isn’t a defeat for the > #MeToo movement. It’s a sign that the reckoning, in this case, has stuck.“ > > > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 9:16 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, I guess I am arguing for more of a continuum between fully >> “cancelled” and fully back. LCK does not yet seem fully back, and I’m not >> convinced he deserves permanent full cancellation, though I am open to >> being persuaded otherwise. >> >> On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 7:43 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have difficulty seeing Louis as cancelled if he's still booking gigs >>> as a standup. I recognize that some would consider any loss of >>> professional standing as cancellation. I'm not in that group. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Monday, April 4, 2022, 07:10:51 AM PDT, PGage <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> [I think I’m using that British term correctly] >>> >>> >>> I’m not sure about this: I’m not sure that winning a comedy album Grammy >>> is the marker of being back. He is selling out dates on his Euro-tour, but >>> that is not quite the same as being back to where he was 5 years ago, which >>> was close to the very top of his field. >>> >>> >>> I wouldn’t buy a ticket to see him, especially since he is apparently >>> using his show to make light of what he did. But I’m not sure what he did >>> deserves a lifetime ban or the full Harvey Weinstein. >>> >>> >>> >>> “Louis C.K. brought home a Grammy on Sunday despite having admitted to >>> sexual misconduct and subsequently enduring almost five years in >>> professional comedy purgatory. >>> >>> C.K.'s album, Sincerely Louis C.K., beat out five other nominees — >>> including Lewis Black, Kevin Hart and Chelsea Handler — for best comedy >>> album at the 64th Grammy Awards. The comeback album was his first release >>> since the 54-year-old was accused of masturbating in front of multiple >>> female colleagues in November 2017….” >>> >>> >>> https://www.npr.org/2022/04/04/1090743278/louis-c-k-crawls-out-of-cancellation-wins-a-grammy-and-triggers-a-backlash >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1622284940.839717.1649083401412%40mail.yahoo.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1622284940.839717.1649083401412%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BmhoCaVRwtRhQsKfwN8hhtzpPXnqiqkaGvcNFRaE%2BBxA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BmhoCaVRwtRhQsKfwN8hhtzpPXnqiqkaGvcNFRaE%2BBxA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4CSGq6ucj1XfoZErVne%3D7Qcj88hyHZ5Wf8QNmTe1pJYrQ%40mail.gmail.com.
