I may have enjoyed that summer more than you did… On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 at 5:31 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 4:49 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Right, comparisons to past Hearings are not valid, for same reason not >> really helpful to compare Oscar ratings this year to 30 years ago. I think >> it helps to compare to most recent big audience political event, and most >> popular regular TV program. >> >> I stayed home from school to watch the Wategate hearings, even before >> Alex Butterrfield (? That’s from memory, I think it was his name) revealed >> the tapes. I was on my Honeymoon when Oliver North was testifying in >> Iran-Contra, and am happy to report that I was otherwise engaged. >> > > I was a kid in Oklahoma at a KOA campground run by my sister’s godparents > during Iran-Contra. As a child I found Oklahoma so boring that I watched > nearly every minute of Oliver North. I also discovered Le Tour De France on > TV that year. That boring summer shaped my viewing habits and my politics. > > > >> I would be interested in seeing Ratings for those Hearings compared to >> the State of The Union speech that year, and the most popular regular show. >> >> On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 at 3:31 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree with that. I just don’t want to set up a comparison to earlier >>> televised Congressional hearings because of the fracturing of the audience >>> and the fact that people know they can quickly get recaps instead of >>> sitting through the hearings. >>> >>> The first televised hearings in the fifties, the Kefauver organized >>> crime hearings and the Army McCarthy hearings, were apparently >>> blockbusters. The Watergate hearings, as I recall, didn’t become compelling >>> until it came out that Nixon was recording Oval Office conversations. I >>> can’t comment about Iran Contra because I wasn’t in the US at the time. >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 5:29 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed. The Hearings are not a TV show and are not primarily evaluated >>>> in terms of ratings. >>>> >>>> But the ratings, albeit imperfectly, are an indication of public >>>> interest. My take is that, contrary to the claims of Trump collaborators >>>> that the American people no longer care about the 1/6 Attack, the ratings, >>>> at least on the first night, indicate a high level of interest; Americans >>>> were at least as interested in learning more about the Attacks as they are >>>> in watching prime time football. >>>> >>>> I feel like the Hearing over performed reasonable expectations in the >>>> ratings, and in substance. >>>> >>>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 at 1:16 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Summer TV numbers have always been relatively low and more and more >>>>> people don’t think of the networks when they choose what to watch in the >>>>> evening (Eastern time zone). >>>>> >>>>> For me the purpose of the hearings is to get all of this information >>>>> and evidence into the public record in the most accessible way and to make >>>>> the DOJ more aggressive in prosecuting those responsible. Neither of those >>>>> requires big ratings. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 5:29 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wish I had thought to ask this in advance, but I am interested in >>>>>> if folks here think this is a high, low or expected number of viewers for >>>>>> last night. For context, 19 M is less than the State of the Union (38M) >>>>>> and >>>>>> about the same as Sunday Night Football, which is the highest rated >>>>>> regular >>>>>> TV program. >>>>>> >>>>>> I got home at 6:25 from work, and watched the recording I had kind of >>>>>> randomly made from NBC News. The NYT reports the following breakdown: >>>>>> >>>>>> ABC: 4.8 M >>>>>> NBC: 3M+ >>>>>> CBS: 3M+ >>>>>> MSNBC: 4.2M (4X their normal audience) >>>>>> CNN: 2.6M >>>>>> >>>>>> Fox “News” got its usual 3M viewers, so I guess that really does mean >>>>>> that almost no regular FN viewer watched the Hearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I watched the events of 1/6/21 live in horror and often literally in >>>>>> tears. I dug in pretty deeply over the weeks that followed on any >>>>>> available >>>>>> information, and I feel like about 90% of what the Committee is reporting >>>>>> was known before the end of January last year. Still, I have been >>>>>> impressed >>>>>> with the work of the Committee, and thought they did an effective job >>>>>> last >>>>>> night, consistent with finding that most people who tuned in at the start >>>>>> stayed with the whole two hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can also report the unsurprising news that Chuck Todd continues to >>>>>> be an incompetent twit. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/10/business/media/jan-6-hearing-ratings.html?referringSource=articleShare >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKALpiLXaYuiWxbG4n%2BOV4b_bXfH_Z7TH0kWwK_2Umj%2BA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKALpiLXaYuiWxbG4n%2BOV4b_bXfH_Z7TH0kWwK_2Umj%2BA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiFcgqgqehemvafPJWAsuyhndB-h9RHi6%2B8cdV4BOQ6O9g%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiFcgqgqehemvafPJWAsuyhndB-h9RHi6%2B8cdV4BOQ6O9g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKwFH%2BKpkL5UaUVR0xH7MX-hMyhx%3Dv2OPgZc9yRM61bkw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKwFH%2BKpkL5UaUVR0xH7MX-hMyhx%3Dv2OPgZc9yRM61bkw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEez81w4DxoORDVBbwYL_vPgDPxd5LuO3KS7naH5zdbaw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEez81w4DxoORDVBbwYL_vPgDPxd5LuO3KS7naH5zdbaw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJpB02bwiAycxwX2BknVYRg4ymZz0qLJOViOiUCGekHMw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJpB02bwiAycxwX2BknVYRg4ymZz0qLJOViOiUCGekHMw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Kevin M. 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