"A Hard Day's Night" is available on HBO Max. I think that one is a long way from being a train wreck.
> On Jun 30, 2022, at 5:23 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 5:08 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I didn’t reply because I thought Kevin was referring to recent movies coming > out about Elvis. The Hollywood Elvis movies were terrible because Hollywood > in that era was terrible. Elvis didn’t have any acting chops and trying to > pair him with a visionary director or really make anything that wasn’t visual > chewing gum would have alienated the Elvis fan base and his management. > Sinatra was a teen idol just as much as Elvis would later become but try and > picture Elvis in The Man With the Golden Arm, From Here to Eternity, or The > Manchurian Candidate > > The Beatles movies were on par with the Elvis movies, but the Beatles wisely > seem disinclined to recirculate those theatrical train wrecks. Sinatra had > some bad movies, too, but as the examples you referenced illustrate, either > he or his handlers tried to put him in films with some gravitas. That said, > “4 for Texas” starring Sinatra, Dean Martin, a Bond girl, AND the Three > Stooges is, in this writer’s humble opinion, so bad it is good. > > > The Fleming Bond novels were pulp fiction. They functioned well as mens’ > adventure stories when they were written though they have comic book > characters and plotting. The Goldfinger story in the book is exceptionally > stupid. Getting a good movie out of it is always going to be difficult and > they built the franchise by concentrating on gadgets and special effects. > > Whatever you think of Dr. No, at the end of the movie (spoiler alert) Bond > takes out the stronghold by turning off the coolant to the nuclear reactor > core, causing a meltdown. Of course in the movie it just causes a > conventional explosion and not the apocalyptic effect of a molten reactor > core entering the Caribbean Sea. > > Considering how little money was spent on those early Bond films, we should > be grateful any explosion was featured at all. Sean Connery had to pay for > his own hairpieces back then. > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 7:36 PM PGage <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > The Elvis movies have not aged badly; they have always been horrible. > > Bond films age unevenly. I agree Goldfinger is not nearly as good as I once > thought it was. OTOH, Dr. No is still pretty damn good. > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 10:53 AM Kevin M. <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Question for the group: Has anyone tried to watch any of the Elvis movies > recently? I have… they are bad. They aren’t even kitschy bad or nostalgic bad > or so bad they are good… they are just bad. > > Semi-related: I recently rewatched the James Bond movie “Goldfinger”… it did > not age well. Even if you could set aside the sexism and racism, the parts of > the story intended to be dramatic seem comical, and the intended comedy falls > flat. And the story: the villain is a biggish man who cheats at golf… I’m > quaking in my boots. > > I will always be a fan of Bond, just as I will always be a fan of Elvis, but > sometimes it is best to leave the past in the past. > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 2:48 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Cinedigm told Variety (f'rinstance) about a year ago it was going to do this. > > Amazon's Freevee and Byron Allen's company's Local Now are among the > participants. > > https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/cinedigm-launches-free-dedicated-elvis-presley-channel-7-streaming-platforms > > <https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/cinedigm-launches-free-dedicated-elvis-presley-channel-7-streaming-platforms> > (link) > > > B > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/05cce134-b5be-4216-baf1-665168a09e4bn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/05cce134-b5be-4216-baf1-665168a09e4bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > -- > Kevin M. 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