My understanding is that the residuals are negligible (especially for animated 
shows), so it's more likely that this is a tax write-off situation, just as 
with the "Batgirl" movie. By pulling the shows, it reduces the amount of income 
to HBO Max that would have been attributed to each show.


> On Aug 19, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> If someone plays an episode, they have to pay residuals to the 
> performers--and since it's not a reality show, that means the Muppeteers, the 
> guests and the musicians.  Reality shows can get away with no residuals 
> outside of the host or other regulars.
> 
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:50:36 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
> What makes no sense to me (as a lay-person) is the logic behind pulling "MAX 
> Originals", shows like "Not Too Late Show w/ Elmo" which were produced for 
> the streamer, have been available for some time, and aren't in current 
> production (so, effectively, costing nothing for WBD to keep online). What's 
> the benefit of pulling those down?
> 
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:11:11 AM UTC-4 Jim Ellwanger wrote:
> I note that "Infinity Train" creator Owen Dennis has changed his Twitter bio 
> to read "Creator of #InfinityTrain, a show that got pulled from @HBOMax and 
> can now only be pirated."
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2022, at 10:40 PM, Mark Jeffries <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Thank you.  I think I got them mixed up with another show.
>> 
>> And it should be said that once again Twitter is up in arms over all of 
>> this, just like they were last week over "Batgirl."  In particular, the 
>> animation community, which is already pissed over the cuts made at Netflix 
>> and working conditions in general for TV animation, seems to be in an uproar 
>> over this action, Rodney Dangerfield-ing all over the place and complaining 
>> that because they don't put out DVDs anymore they have no way of keeping 
>> physical copies of the shows for their audition videos. They're especially 
>> in arms because of Warners' history in animation.
>> 
>> Mark Jeffries
>> [email protected] <>
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:47 PM M-D November <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> Correction - Esme & Roy isn’t a UK import, but rather a Sesame Workshop 
>> production. 
>> 
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 12:06:21 PM UTC-4 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>> The better to make room for the Chip and Joanna Gaines Magnolia Network hub, 
>> for the most part either unscripted or children's shows, including an 
>> Aquaman animated series, the "Tattletales" reboot "About Last Night," both 
>> of Ellen DeGeneres' series (the designer reality comp and the cartoon 
>> "Little Ellen"), Cartoon Network's hit "Uncle Grandpa," the Brit pre-school 
>> cartoon "Esme and Roy," unspecified "Sesame Street" specials and "The Not 
>> Too Late Show with Elmo"--complete list in link:
>> 
>> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/hbo-max-originals-removed-1235344286/ 
>> <https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/hbo-max-originals-removed-1235344286/>
>> 
>> No indication if they'll show up anywhere else--oh, Oliver's going to be 
>> talking to Daddy Zaslav this week.
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