That's not going to happen until either Fallon starts beating Colbert again (Gutfeld doesn't count, besides he starts at 11) or Stephen just says that it's time to make changes and he doesn't care that the show's number one. Or is that all wishful thinking?
Mark Jeffries [email protected] [image: width=] <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free.www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 7:34 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < [email protected]> wrote: > A recent development with the interviews I find really annoying is > bumpering what will be talked about in the next segment (if the interview > goes longer than a segment) as they go to commercial break. > > I think the shows' efforts to address the war in Ukraine have emphasized > the show's comedy being on auto-pilot a lot of the time. "(insert Russian > thing here)....is potato" was just as tired the third time as it was the > 1000th time. > > Licht's departure has not, nor did I expect it to, result in a shakeup, > but I would welcome an overhaul of the showrunners and/or writers room. > Could they please get out of the Ed (safely) once in a while? > > David > > On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 05:09:12 PM PDT, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't know that Colbert is the most-left host (Kimmel could give him a > run for his money), but he's consistently been anti-Trump. > > The problem (for me) is the overstuffed laziness of the writing on his > show. It really struck me last night how dependent he is on the prompter in > the monologue. I realize he's not telling "jokes" that can be > summarized/telegraphed on cue cards, but his monologue is about as > spontaneous as something by Rachel Maddow -- and I don't mean that as a > compliment. > > It's overstuffed in the sense that the monologue is full of long, long, > long remarks and recaps of the stuff that's already been dealt with (badly) > in the cold opening (which, as long as it highlights Stack, will remain the > second-weakest* part of the show) and endless explanations that set up the > "punchlines" he's about to deliver. (In my mind, if the setup takes that > long, the joke isn't worth it.) > > His refusal to show or speak Trump's name is juvenile, and his reduction > of Biden to a clueless glad-hander in aviator glasses is as toothless and > inane as something on SNL.(I don't mind criticism of Biden; I do mind > uninspired criticism.) > > (*The weakest part will always be the panels, which have always been > too-heavily reliant on whatever's been discussed in the pre-interview, and > are hampered by his continued inability to listen to the guests or avoid > talking over them.) > > The biggest problem with the show's politics is its continually > self-congratulatory preaching to the choir. I'm not saying he should be > bipartisan (I'm glad he's picked a lane), but there's a smugness to the > show that borders on the unpleasant for me. Meyers's show (obviously) deals > with the same subjects, but any "Closer Look" segment does that work > better, more efficiently, and in a funnier way than anything on TLS. > (Unsaid before is remarking on whatever Noah's done to TDS. Other than Roy > Wood, Dulce Sloan, and Jordan Klepper's remotes, it's really a train wreck. > Hell, last night -- after three or four weeks off -- they had a remote > segment by Michael Kosta that was so old there was snow on the ground. This > is timely and cutting-edge?) > > --Dave Sikula > > On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 10:57:18 AM PDT, Kevin M. < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I have always enjoyed Colbert, and I’m not opposed to politics in late > night monologues… talk shows are supposed to be topical and relevant to the > headlines of the day. If Trump is in the news, there should be Trump jokes. > If Biden is in the news, there should be Biden jokes. > > I’ve stated before I stopped watching all of them, but my reasons have > changed. The monologues (and SNL satirizations) have been proven to > catapult the most absurd politicians into the spotlight. Under the axiom of > “no such thing as bad publicity,” if they’re talking about you, you must be > doing something right. > > There were at least four better Democratic presidential candidates than > Biden in 2020, just as there were better GOP candidates than Trump, but > those two were the easiest to make fun of, which made them ratings gold. > Bernie Sanders, likewise, is demonstrably ineffective, but he’s cranky and > generates sound bites that can be picked apart and mocked. Same with the > thankfully gone Boris Johnson in the UK… these people aren’t leaders; they > just generate noise. > > We get the candidates we deserve, and as long as culture focuses on who is > the loudest and most obnoxious, those will be our leaders. Talk shows > didn’t create the problem, but they do perpetuate it. > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 8:21 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have always perceived Colbert to be one of the most genuinely liberal > voices on mainstream TV, dating back to before The Colbert Report. He was > always clearly more liberal than the more libertarian Jon Stewart. > > All that to say that I take Colbert’s constant focus on Critiquing Trump > to be authentic to his beliefs. But I suspect one reason I have fallen away > from regular viewership is that it also seems to be a calculated marketing > strategy. This suspicion has been deepened by Licht’s non-Colbert behavior, > both pre at MSNBC (Morning Joe) and post at CNN, which is consistent with > the interpretation that he has no values other than corporate values. > > The problem for me is not that I only want to expose myself to genuinely > liberal voices on TV (I don’t) but I don’t want to feel like I am being > exploited for my own liberal values. I’ve never paid for the services of a > sex worker, but I imagine the feeling afterwards might be something like > how I feel after watching Colbert. Well, not exactly, but kind of. > > On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 at 12:17 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Tonight's opening credits were almost identical to last season's, with the > only change being Louis Cato and the rest of the Late Show Band walking > onstage in the same spot Jon Batiste used to. > > No new or guest personnel tonight. I do note that James Taylor is > scheduled for later this week, so we may see Mr. Goldings on keys as well. > > And of course, this is just the first episode of the new season. > > Best, > David > > > On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 01:51:27 PM PDT, 'David Bruggeman' via > TVorNotTV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > They may not be in any hurry to name a permanent keys player. We might > see a rotation of folks > > Goldings did post some photos and audio from his Late Show appearances > with Taylor on the 'gram. > > https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg2LXbBlo86/?hl=en > > David > > <https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg2LXbBlo86/?hl=en> > > On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 11:27:51 AM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > To update, Goldings did also appear with Walsh; several Redditors > confirned. B > > Mark Jeffries, in part, Aug 12th: > > I'm guessing there's going to be a new keyboard player. Larry Goldings > sat in with James Taylor last week and there was someone else hidden in the > back this week with Joe Walsh (it might've been Goldings, because they were > playing the same keyboard Goldings played). 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