On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 11:54 AM Dave Sikula <[email protected]> wrote:
> I really like Wood, but a) his standup career seems to be taking off, too, > and b) his comic persona isn’t right. He’s best used in small doses (as > with his traffic reports, that kill every week). His most effective schtick > (imo) is being confused by and/or pissed off at something, and I don’t > think that works in the anchor chair. > I said something similar in this group when Colbert was starting The Colbert Report. > — Dave Sikula > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > > > TMZ reports Roy WoodJr. is being considered as Noah's replacement. I'd > watch him. > > > https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/01/roy-wood-jr-candidate-take-over-the-daily-show-hosting-host-trevor-noah/ > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 5:50 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yes. And I believe that at least once I've seen Jimmie J.J. "Kid >> Dyno-Mite" Walker's Medicare Hotline ads in the first break while they have >> the insert of what's going on in the studio on the side. Since that break >> is where the billboard ad is, one would guess that this is where CBS >> charges the most for Colbert, especially since the audience does drop as >> the hour goes on (and that's why the musical guest is always in the last >> act, ever since NBC got on Helen Kushner's case about having Neil Young >> come on with his band on Leno at 11:50). And if you're forced to sell >> those kind of ads in your prime ad time, well I only hope to God that i >> don't see in that break the Camp Lejune ambulance chasers. >> >> Mark Jeffries >> [email protected] >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:46 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> There’s a big difference between “an actual advertiser is willing to pay >>> extra for a live commercial by the host and sidekick” and “we can’t even >>> sell commercial time to an actual advertiser." >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:39 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:35 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You have to remember that most of the late-night hosts were on hiatus >>>> for most of August, with only Kimmel doing guest hosts that month. >>>> Gutfeld's on every night and has a substitute on the nights off. Also, he >>>> has that carryover audience over 65 that's been watching Fox News all night >>>> (if not all day) that no one else really has. But yeah, when Colbert has >>>> frickin' direct response ads on his show, you can tell late night is not >>>> what it used to be. >>>> >>>> Carson and Ed used to do live ads for dog food, and that was at the >>> height of their run on The Tonight Show, so that feels like a clumsy >>> barometer to try to use. >>> >>> >>> Mark Jeffries >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:40 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is really hard to find ratings numbers for late night shows, a huge >>>>> difference from when I used to follow these numbers closely during Conan’s >>>>> Tonight Show. I did find this though from Forbes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/09/30/how-late-night-talk-ratings-cratered-during-trevor-noahs-daily-show-era/ >>>>> >>>>> Noah averaged 1.1M viewers his first season (2015-16), while Fallon >>>>> was at 3.8M and Colbert 3.2M. >>>>> >>>>> Forbes does not give average ratings for the entire 2021-22 season, >>>>> just for August, which obviously is not very typical. >>>>> >>>>> They have Noah at 383K, Colbert at 2.16M, and Fallon at 1.34M (Kimmel >>>>> was 1.1M and Gutfield at 2.2M but I am not focusing on either as their >>>>> August 2022 ratings even more anomalous than the others). >>>>> >>>>> Forbes has Colbert with *only* a 31% decline in ratings from 2015, >>>>> while Noah and Fallon are both around 65% decline. >>>>> >>>>> Those decline percentages are probably an overestimate since they are >>>>> based on low viewership August numbers only for 2022, but they give a >>>>> sense >>>>> of the magnitude of the changing environment. No matter how hot Noah is >>>>> with the demo and viral videos, his TV numbers are low and falling, and CC >>>>> can not make money paying him $16M. I will be shocked if whoever replaces >>>>> him is paid more than $5M, and not surprised if it is less than that. CBS >>>>> is probably still making a profit at 11:35, but NBC is likely only doing >>>>> slightly better than breaking even. All of these guys will make less on >>>>> their next contract than they do now, which is pretty much the point at >>>>> which people move on to other gigs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 12:21 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nope, just the usual suspects about a particular show (e.g. recent >>>>>> claims by Gutfeld) or Futon Critic whom just has the big nets' 11.35 >>>>>> folks >>>>>> (Kimmel took the latest round) >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Timko, to M-D November et al, Sept 30th: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyone have current ratings for all late night shows? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/24b096ac-bc71-4b69-a08b-e1f6abeacb9bn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/24b096ac-bc71-4b69-a08b-e1f6abeacb9bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BZC6fTod7J2NoEpQhc%3D5NgkdQWjWer0ca2SPz_222KAQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BZC6fTod7J2NoEpQhc%3D5NgkdQWjWer0ca2SPz_222KAQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi8%2BT%3Du6G6WOWwe_VcEV%3DdjEhmjtTd-ozwLxecJE6Lup6Q%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi8%2BT%3Du6G6WOWwe_VcEV%3DdjEhmjtTd-ozwLxecJE6Lup6Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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