You lost me at Tik ...
--Dave Sikula
On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 08:44:46 PM PDT, Steve Timko
<[email protected]> wrote:
A TikTok about The Daily Show being cheap.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmgQD7X/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmgPcC3/
She sounds off on The Daily Show on another
topic.https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmg5AdY/
On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 12:35 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 11:54 AM Dave Sikula <[email protected]> wrote:
I really like Wood, but a) his standup career seems to be taking off, too, and
b) his comic persona isn’t right. He’s best used in small doses (as with his
traffic reports, that kill every week). His most effective schtick (imo) is
being confused by and/or pissed off at something, and I don’t think that works
in the anchor chair.
I said something similar in this group when Colbert was starting The Colbert
Report.
— Dave Sikula
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On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
TMZ reports Roy WoodJr. is being considered as Noah's replacement. I'd watch
him.
https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/01/roy-wood-jr-candidate-take-over-the-daily-show-hosting-host-trevor-noah/
On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 5:50 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes. And I believe that at least once I've seen Jimmie J.J. "Kid Dyno-Mite"
Walker's Medicare Hotline ads in the first break while they have the insert of
what's going on in the studio on the side. Since that break is where the
billboard ad is, one would guess that this is where CBS charges the most for
Colbert, especially since the audience does drop as the hour goes on (and
that's why the musical guest is always in the last act, ever since NBC got on
Helen Kushner's case about having Neil Young come on with his band on Leno at
11:50). And if you're forced to sell those kind of ads in your prime ad time,
well I only hope to God that i don't see in that break the Camp Lejune
ambulance chasers.
Mark Jeffries
[email protected]
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:46 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> wrote:
There’s a big difference between “an actual advertiser is willing to pay extra
for a live commercial by the host and sidekick” and “we can’t even sell
commercial time to an actual advertiser."
On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:39 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:35 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
You have to remember that most of the late-night hosts were on hiatus for most
of August, with only Kimmel doing guest hosts that month. Gutfeld's on every
night and has a substitute on the nights off. Also, he has that carryover
audience over 65 that's been watching Fox News all night (if not all day) that
no one else really has. But yeah, when Colbert has frickin' direct response ads
on his show, you can tell late night is not what it used to be.
Carson and Ed used to do live ads for dog food, and that was at the height of
their run on The Tonight Show, so that feels like a clumsy barometer to try to
use.
Mark Jeffries
[email protected]
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:40 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
It is really hard to find ratings numbers for late night shows, a huge
difference from when I used to follow these numbers closely during Conan’s
Tonight Show. I did find this though from Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/09/30/how-late-night-talk-ratings-cratered-during-trevor-noahs-daily-show-era/
Noah averaged 1.1M viewers his first season (2015-16), while Fallon was at 3.8M
and Colbert 3.2M.
Forbes does not give average ratings for the entire 2021-22 season, just for
August, which obviously is not very typical.
They have Noah at 383K, Colbert at 2.16M, and Fallon at 1.34M (Kimmel was 1.1M
and Gutfield at 2.2M but I am not focusing on either as their August 2022
ratings even more anomalous than the others).
Forbes has Colbert with *only* a 31% decline in ratings from 2015, while Noah
and Fallon are both around 65% decline.
Those decline percentages are probably an overestimate since they are based on
low viewership August numbers only for 2022, but they give a sense of the
magnitude of the changing environment. No matter how hot Noah is with the demo
and viral videos, his TV numbers are low and falling, and CC can not make money
paying him $16M. I will be shocked if whoever replaces him is paid more than
$5M, and not surprised if it is less than that. CBS is probably still making a
profit at 11:35, but NBC is likely only doing slightly better than breaking
even. All of these guys will make less on their next contract than they do now,
which is pretty much the point at which people move on to other gigs.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 12:21 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV
<[email protected]> wrote:
Nope, just the usual suspects about a particular show (e.g. recent claims by
Gutfeld) or Futon Critic whom just has the big nets' 11.35 folks (Kimmel took
the latest round)B
Steve Timko, to M-D November et al, Sept 30th:
Anyone have current ratings for all late night shows?
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