Same. I don’t do Tik and view any link to it I am sent as part of a Dateline Sting operation…
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 9:11 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > You lost me at Tik ... > > --Dave Sikula > > On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 08:44:46 PM PDT, Steve Timko < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > A TikTok about The Daily Show being cheap. > > https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmgQD7X/ > > https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmgPcC3/ > > She sounds off on The Daily Show on another topic. > https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmg5AdY/ > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 12:35 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 11:54 AM Dave Sikula <[email protected]> wrote: > > I really like Wood, but a) his standup career seems to be taking off, too, > and b) his comic persona isn’t right. He’s best used in small doses (as > with his traffic reports, that kill every week). His most effective schtick > (imo) is being confused by and/or pissed off at something, and I don’t > think that works in the anchor chair. > > > I said something similar in this group when Colbert was starting The > Colbert Report. > > > > > > — Dave Sikula > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > > > TMZ reports Roy WoodJr. is being considered as Noah's replacement. I'd > watch him. > > > https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/01/roy-wood-jr-candidate-take-over-the-daily-show-hosting-host-trevor-noah/ > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 5:50 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yes. And I believe that at least once I've seen Jimmie J.J. "Kid > Dyno-Mite" Walker's Medicare Hotline ads in the first break while they have > the insert of what's going on in the studio on the side. Since that break > is where the billboard ad is, one would guess that this is where CBS > charges the most for Colbert, especially since the audience does drop as > the hour goes on (and that's why the musical guest is always in the last > act, ever since NBC got on Helen Kushner's case about having Neil Young > come on with his band on Leno at 11:50). And if you're forced to sell > those kind of ads in your prime ad time, well I only hope to God that i > don't see in that break the Camp Lejune ambulance chasers. > > Mark Jeffries > [email protected] > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:46 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> > wrote: > > There’s a big difference between “an actual advertiser is willing to pay > extra for a live commercial by the host and sidekick” and “we can’t even > sell commercial time to an actual advertiser." > > On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:39 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:35 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You have to remember that most of the late-night hosts were on hiatus for > most of August, with only Kimmel doing guest hosts that month. Gutfeld's > on every night and has a substitute on the nights off. Also, he has that > carryover audience over 65 that's been watching Fox News all night (if not > all day) that no one else really has. But yeah, when Colbert has frickin' > direct response ads on his show, you can tell late night is not what it > used to be. > > Carson and Ed used to do live ads for dog food, and that was at the height > of their run on The Tonight Show, so that feels like a clumsy barometer to > try to use. > > > Mark Jeffries > [email protected] > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:40 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > > It is really hard to find ratings numbers for late night shows, a huge > difference from when I used to follow these numbers closely during Conan’s > Tonight Show. I did find this though from Forbes: > > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/09/30/how-late-night-talk-ratings-cratered-during-trevor-noahs-daily-show-era/ > > Noah averaged 1.1M viewers his first season (2015-16), while Fallon was at > 3.8M and Colbert 3.2M. > > Forbes does not give average ratings for the entire 2021-22 season, just > for August, which obviously is not very typical. > > They have Noah at 383K, Colbert at 2.16M, and Fallon at 1.34M (Kimmel was > 1.1M and Gutfield at 2.2M but I am not focusing on either as their August > 2022 ratings even more anomalous than the others). > > Forbes has Colbert with *only* a 31% decline in ratings from 2015, while > Noah and Fallon are both around 65% decline. > > Those decline percentages are probably an overestimate since they are > based on low viewership August numbers only for 2022, but they give a sense > of the magnitude of the changing environment. No matter how hot Noah is > with the demo and viral videos, his TV numbers are low and falling, and CC > can not make money paying him $16M. I will be shocked if whoever replaces > him is paid more than $5M, and not surprised if it is less than that. CBS > is probably still making a profit at 11:35, but NBC is likely only doing > slightly better than breaking even. All of these guys will make less on > their next contract than they do now, which is pretty much the point at > which people move on to other gigs. > > > On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 12:21 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Nope, just the usual suspects about a particular show (e.g. recent claims > by Gutfeld) or Futon Critic whom just has the big nets' 11.35 folks (Kimmel > took the latest round) > B > > Steve Timko, to M-D November et al, Sept 30th: > > Anyone have current ratings for all late night shows? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/24b096ac-bc71-4b69-a08b-e1f6abeacb9bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/24b096ac-bc71-4b69-a08b-e1f6abeacb9bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BZC6fTod7J2NoEpQhc%3D5NgkdQWjWer0ca2SPz_222KAQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BZC6fTod7J2NoEpQhc%3D5NgkdQWjWer0ca2SPz_222KAQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi8%2BT%3Du6G6WOWwe_VcEV%3DdjEhmjtTd-ozwLxecJE6Lup6Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi8%2BT%3Du6G6WOWwe_VcEV%3DdjEhmjtTd-ozwLxecJE6Lup6Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > Kevin M. 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