Tiktok girl sounds like a petulant child who doesn't understand how the 
industry works. Posting random behind-the-scenes content without 
authorization from her employer? What a shocker that she's no longer 
employed by TDS. 

On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 11:44:44 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:

> A TikTok about The Daily Show being cheap.
>
> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmgQD7X/
>
> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmgPcC3/
>
> She sounds off on The Daily Show on another topic.
> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRmg5AdY/
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 12:35 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2022, 11:54 AM Dave Sikula <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I really like Wood, but a) his standup career seems to be taking off, 
>>> too, and b) his comic persona isn’t right. He’s best used in small doses 
>>> (as with his traffic reports, that kill every week). His most effective 
>>> schtick (imo) is being confused by and/or pissed off at something, and I 
>>> don’t think that works in the anchor chair.
>>>
>>
>> I said something similar in this group when Colbert was starting The 
>> Colbert Report.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> — Dave Sikula 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> TMZ reports Roy WoodJr. is being considered as Noah's replacement. I'd 
>>> watch him.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/01/roy-wood-jr-candidate-take-over-the-daily-show-hosting-host-trevor-noah/
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 5:50 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes.  And I believe that at least once I've seen Jimmie J.J. "Kid 
>>>> Dyno-Mite" Walker's Medicare Hotline ads in the first break while they 
>>>> have 
>>>> the insert of what's going on in the studio on the side.  Since that break 
>>>> is where the billboard ad is, one would guess that this is where CBS 
>>>> charges the most for Colbert, especially since the audience does drop as 
>>>> the hour goes on (and that's why the musical guest is always in the last 
>>>> act, ever since NBC got on Helen Kushner's case about having Neil Young 
>>>> come on with his band on Leno at 11:50).   And if you're forced to sell 
>>>> those kind of ads in your prime ad time, well I only hope to God that i 
>>>> don't see in that break the Camp Lejune ambulance chasers.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Jeffries
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:46 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There’s a big difference between “an actual advertiser is willing to 
>>>>> pay extra for a live commercial by the host and sidekick” and “we can’t 
>>>>> even sell commercial time to an actual advertiser."
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:39 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 9:35 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to remember that most of the late-night hosts were on hiatus 
>>>>>> for most of August, with only Kimmel doing guest hosts that month.  
>>>>>> Gutfeld's on every night and has a substitute on the nights off.  Also, 
>>>>>> he 
>>>>>> has that carryover audience over 65 that's been watching Fox News all 
>>>>>> night 
>>>>>> (if not all day) that no one else really has. But yeah, when Colbert has 
>>>>>> frickin' direct response ads on his show, you can tell late night is not 
>>>>>> what it used to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carson and Ed used to do live ads for dog food, and that was at the 
>>>>> height of their run on The Tonight Show, so that feels like a clumsy 
>>>>> barometer to try to use. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Jeffries
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:40 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is really hard to find ratings numbers for late night shows, a 
>>>>>>> huge difference from when I used to follow these numbers closely during 
>>>>>>> Conan’s Tonight Show. I did find this though from Forbes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2022/09/30/how-late-night-talk-ratings-cratered-during-trevor-noahs-daily-show-era/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noah averaged 1.1M viewers his first season (2015-16), while Fallon 
>>>>>>> was at 3.8M and Colbert 3.2M.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forbes does not give average ratings for the entire 2021-22 season, 
>>>>>>> just for August, which obviously is not very typical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have Noah at 383K, Colbert at 2.16M, and Fallon at 1.34M 
>>>>>>> (Kimmel was 1.1M and Gutfield at 2.2M but I am not focusing on either 
>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>> their August 2022 ratings even more anomalous than the others).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forbes has Colbert with *only* a 31% decline in ratings from 2015, 
>>>>>>> while Noah and Fallon are both around 65% decline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those decline percentages are probably an overestimate since they 
>>>>>>> are based on low viewership August numbers only for 2022, but they give 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> sense of the magnitude of the changing environment. No matter how hot 
>>>>>>> Noah 
>>>>>>> is with the demo and viral videos, his TV numbers are low and falling, 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> CC can not make money paying him $16M. I will be shocked if whoever 
>>>>>>> replaces him is paid more than $5M, and not surprised if it is less 
>>>>>>> than 
>>>>>>> that. CBS is probably still making a profit at 11:35, but NBC is likely 
>>>>>>> only doing slightly better than breaking even. All of these guys will 
>>>>>>> make 
>>>>>>> less on their next contract than they do now, which is pretty much the 
>>>>>>> point at which people move on to other gigs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 12:21 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, just the usual suspects about a particular show (e.g. recent 
>>>>>>>> claims by Gutfeld) or Futon Critic whom just has the big nets' 11.35 
>>>>>>>> folks 
>>>>>>>> (Kimmel took the latest round)
>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve Timko, to M-D November et al, Sept 30th:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone have current ratings for all late night shows?
>>>>>>>>>
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