The Athletic has a piece on Sunday Ticket rights agreements with Apple dragging on:
https://theathletic.com/3907524/2022/11/18/nfl-sunday-ticket-apple-directv/?redirected=1 (for those who have access) In essence, it sounds like Apple is after additional rights beyond those which Direct TV had previously had. Obviously it'll be a streaming-first offering, but the report made it sound like they wanted in-market rights (as they have with their MLS deal). It also sounds like the NFL wants an amount that it's unlikely to get, unless Apple can seriously up the number of Sunday Ticket subscribers. The report suggests that DirectTV has 1m subscribers paying the $400, and that makes it a loss leader. To get to the $3.5bn the NFL would like, Apple would need 8.75m subscribers paying the same rate! Plus, the report says, RedZone has actually diluted the value of Sunday Ticket. Final para: “They really need to have this announced by the Super Bowl,” said the individual close to the NFL, pinning the timing to the middle of February 2023. “But if it doesn’t happen, you’re really starting to run the clock.” On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 7:04 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I used to have Sunday Ticket, and as you say it includes it’s own RedZone > channel, which does much the same thing as the NFL Network Red Zone (though > IMO not as well). > > If Sunday Ticket (with its RedZone) is available on Apple in 2 years, and > the NFL Network version is somehow either more expensive or less good, I > might be more inclined to pay the $300 for the Ticket, and Apple might be > motivated to arrange just that if it made more money from Sunday Ticket, > but also had influence over what the NFL Network RZ did and cost. > > On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 at 7:30 AM John Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Also, looks like the NFL wants the rights owner for Sunday Ticket to >>> also be a part owner of NFL Media, which runs NFL RedZone, which I always >>> thought was basically an alternative and competitor to Sunday Ticket. >>> >> >> I’m not sure it’s really a competitor, especially since there’s a version >> of RedZone that airs on Sunday Ticket. (The Andrew Siciliano one.) >> >> Sunday Ticket serves people who want to be sure to see their preferred >> team, no matter where they live, or people who want to choose the game they >> watch in any window without having to deal with the NFL blackout rules >> (especially in areas with two teams). >> >> RedZone is more for gamblers, fantasy football players and people who >> want to watch highlights rather than one game. >> >> John >> >>> -- >> John Edwards >> "You can insure against the weather, but you can't insure against >> incompetence, can you?" - Phil Tufnell >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJLXtM%2B8m%3DxS6O4LyOaSpKwQ1_A6qJ6kzQSmWaOibMcVytb%2B9w%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJLXtM%2B8m%3DxS6O4LyOaSpKwQ1_A6qJ6kzQSmWaOibMcVytb%2B9w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLBuiOMjpUyF%2BC2%2BKi4-JvmV%3D2yxD-2PPPRqHFTJgZ%2BRw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLBuiOMjpUyF%2BC2%2BKi4-JvmV%3D2yxD-2PPPRqHFTJgZ%2BRw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGA6KcdZs0MSVBvxUN9UKoFHewGqFAa-Um2-GRj6QcOkrQ%40mail.gmail.com.
