Speaking of hard-boiled detectives, last week on the "Movies!" channel I saw the 1948 movie "I Love Trouble," written by Roy Huggins and based on one of his novels. It's a very tough and gripping noir mystery, very much in the Chandler mode, and I highly recommend it. Franchot Tone plays the lead, detective Stuart Bailey. Huggins reused the Bailey character on his later TV series "77 Sunset Strip," with Efrem Zimbalist Jr. as Bailey, but Tone's version is much more edgy and dangerous, with none of the lightness of the series. If you like Chandler, I think you'll enjoy it.
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 6:56:33 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote: > I am a huge Chandler (and Hammett) fan. If you like that sort of thing > highly recommend reading all of it, starting with short stories (both > authors have proto versions of their later Novel length protagonists, > either unnamed it differently named). > > Marlowe is the more developed character (compared to Spade). Chandler > described him in a famous quote: “down these mean streets a man must go who > is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid.” > > Marlow has his own moral code but he lives in a tough and grimy and > complex Los Angeles where the cops are often as dirty and violent as the > criminals. Marlow is not above using violence, and even killing people; if > the new show depicts him as a bully or a thug they will have it wrong, but > if they show him kicking the shit out of a few guys who he thinks deserve > it, or shooting someone who is trying to stop him from his Knight’s quest, > that would be about right. > > Robert Parker’s Spenser is in the mode of Marlow (though Spenser is a more > socialized and civilized and watered down version, with a Black friend and > a psychotherapist GF). Parker was given permission by the Chandler estate > to complete and unfinished Chandler novel. > > Bogie will always be my favorite, but there are other good Marlowe’s out > there (Robert Mitchum and James Garner). > > On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 2:36 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I read one Raymond Chandler novel as a kid. I don’t remember which one. >> So I’m not sure how Philip Marlowe is portrayed in the books. I’ve seen >> “The Big Sleep” several times and love Humphrey Bogart’s take on Marlowe. >> He’s sly and maybe a little bit crooked, but not too much. Quite endearing. >> I wasn’t a fan of Elliott Gould’s hippy Philip Marlowe in “The Long >> Goodbye.” The trailer for “Marlowe” shows Liam Neeson beating up people. >> I’ll wait and see it before passing judgment, but I’m not sure I’ll like a >> brutish Philip Marlowe. >> >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 8:52 AM Diner <bway...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for this. I like the song too. >>> I am a Marlowe fan, but I hadn't heard of this movie until now. (I >>> didn't read Banville's book, but I did listen to a podcast interview with >>> him when it was published.) >>> I am hopeful, but Neeson's and Cumming's accents have me worried. >>> >>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 7:55:06 PM UTC-5 David Bruggeman wrote: >>> >>>> The former LSwSC bandleader has a song on the soundtrack to the Neil >>>> Jordan/Liam Neeson film "Marlowe", which debuts in U.S. theaters soon >>>> (I've >>>> seen conflicting dates) - either today (2/10) or Wednesday (2/15)). >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOwkaf2RVg >>>> >>>> The film stars Neeson as Philip Marlowe, and the cast includes Jessica >>>> Lange, Diane Kruger and Danny Huston. The source material is a 2014 novel >>>> written by John Banville. >>>> >>>> I like the song, but I don't know if I'll like the film. The trailer >>>> didn't seem that impressive, even with the stacked cast. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/2389c608-5155-497c-b298-a557d1be0a19n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/2389c608-5155-497c-b298-a557d1be0a19n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yxKTQ_Kh69iknGv9Xa47f5Pord_LHwn-UiwFabHkHmtVQ%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yxKTQ_Kh69iknGv9Xa47f5Pord_LHwn-UiwFabHkHmtVQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/0fa4d390-567e-4321-ae66-1f0305744c30n%40googlegroups.com.
