How much of Peacock’s revenue comes from the subscriber fees compared to advertising, product placement and other sources? Are there stats anywhere on that?
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:36 PM M-D November <[email protected]> wrote: > Mentioning ESPN was deliberate, but maybe not for the reasons you thought > - Endeavor, through UFC (with with WWE is now technically merged) has a > deal to run their PPV events via ESPN+. If WWE were to go down that same > road, it would stand to reason that they'd take the remainder of the "WWE > Network" catalog with them and set up shop on ESPN+, leaving the 'Cock > without it's killer feature. > > Do I think this is going to happen? Unclear - but WWE President Nick Khan > has said he was exploring the option of returning to a PPV model (instead > of giving the PPV shows away effectively for free via the 'Cock). Whether > he'd be able to get WWE fans to cough up $60 every month or so when they've > become accustomed over the last decade to paying between $0-$10/mo is > another story. > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 3:29:51 PM UTC-4 Tom Wolper wrote: > >> The other side of that is professional wrestling fans tend to be fans of >> other sports and getting brand loyalty is important for keeping ESPN >> sustainable. Every wrestling fan knows what’s going on behind the scenes >> especially now in the age of the internet, so nobody is being deceived >> anymore. I follow two sports journalism sites occasionally, The Ringer and >> Sports Illustrated, and both have extensive coverage of the WWE and barely >> any of the NHL. That’s because readers click through to read the wrestling >> articles and not hockey articles. And if there’s a scandal it’s not like >> ESPN can quash it, not with all of the other outlets covering the WWE. >> >> As for Peacock, in a business podcast I listened to last year, the >> analyst said that Peacock has only a fraction of the subscribers of the >> other services and most of them were getting it free for signing up with >> Comcast. I always expect to hear that they are being bought out. When I >> signed up for $1.99 a month last September I thought the reason for the >> deal was for Peacock to juice their subscriber numbers prior to a sale. >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:11 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't know, but I would be so worried about ESPN getting the WWE, >>> especially considering all of the chicanery the WWE's gone through lately. >>> It would seem very hard for "SportsCenter" to do any kind of investigative >>> piece on them. And if I were the producer of the 11 p.m. ET show and was >>> told that I would have to lead with Wrestlemania, I would consider handing >>> in my resignation and leaving Bristol pronto. >>> >>> I know--I guess I believe that there are still people at ESPN who want >>> to be journalists. >>> >>> Mark Jeffries >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 10:50 AM M-D November <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I read recently that if WWE (via it's new ownership, Endeavor) goes >>>> with ESPN or another media outlet and doesn't renew their deal with >>>> Peacock, that's pretty much the end of Peacock as a viable service. Not >>>> sure how much of that was hyperbole... >>>> >>>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 6:58:38 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote: >>>> >>>>> They're expected to lose $3bil this year, but a BofA analyst says '24 >>>>> is looking rosier, as the streamer improves through its next-day >>>>> availability of NBC and Bravo shows, sports (it will delivery *every* >>>>> event >>>>> in next year's Olympics*), and Universal's theatrical content... >>>>> >>>>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/peacock-viewers-growth-streaming-competition-1235599443/ >>>>> (link) >>>>> *although I wish they'd not split hairs, and actually provide the same >>>>> feeds seen on their other platforms, instead of the >>>>> announcerless/alternate >>>>> voices ones through OBS, thanks. >>>>> B >>>>> (update: Dan Patrick is still giving the "download the app and watch >>>>> [his daily radio show] for free" shpiel despite that the promotion was >>>>> ended) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a08ab208-c767-443b-9fa4-4666e9bcc1b8n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a08ab208-c767-443b-9fa4-4666e9bcc1b8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi-BL%2BdP2xHzNAQmQ4a4Q2LpdCL8YTQ%2B556UD5AQWVF%2BTg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi-BL%2BdP2xHzNAQmQ4a4Q2LpdCL8YTQ%2B556UD5AQWVF%2BTg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/f9ccaf8b-9e8c-462a-b0ca-d349c964936bn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/f9ccaf8b-9e8c-462a-b0ca-d349c964936bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Kevin M. 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