Belloni writes that Streamers can do either or both: take what I understand to be an accounting benefit , though perhaps it is some kind of tax write off (“Impairment”) and/or sell it to a different distributor, like DVD or ad-supported streaming (a la Westworld). So not all of the purged material will disappear, but a lot will, and a lot of creators who came of age in a period when they expected their material to be essentially permanently available are going to have hurt feelings.
On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 8:53 PM ko...@frontiernet.net <ko...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > My understanding is that the Disney stuff being purged is being written > off as a tax loss so it might really go away for good (legally that is). > WBD stuff is showing up in other places like HBO shows on Roku channel, > Elmo's Not Too Late Show on PBS kids and Looney Tunes on ME TV Tune in with > me and a new Warner Archive Blu Ray tied to WB 100th anniversary. > > Sent from Frontier Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 10:01 PM, Jim Ellwanger > <train...@ellwanger.tv> wrote: > Movies and shows that are being removed from streaming services ARE still > available, but, of course, in an unofficial, not-legal manner (they’re on > torrent sites, and probably some dark web locations). > > > On May 22, 2023, at 6:35 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Matt Belloni at Puck News has a story out that, while it doesn’t exactly > break new ground, crystallizes in a dramatic way what is happening in > television right now. As he puts it, “the Great Netflix Correction has > officially become the Great Streaming Purge.” > > He means that the draconian cuts made infamous by Zas at WBD are now > becoming the norm in the industry. Iger at Disney is determined to cut $3 > Billion this year. Streamers will still be spending a lot of money on > production of course, but more and more focused on content that is watched > by significant fractions, and that drive sign-ups and limit churn. > > One of the things this means is a return to the television content > lifespan that Boomers grew up with, but will feel new and intolerable to > most everyone younger: most shows and films will (if lucky) live long > enough to be enjoyed once, maybe twice, and then disappear, often for good, > not living on infinitely on VHS, DVD or evergreen streams. > > What I did not really understand until now (even though WBD kept claiming > it, but they are hard to believe) is that available content in a streaming > library is not cost-neutral to the streamer. I had assumed that if nobody > is watching a bad film that is available on Disney+, it does not cost > Disney anything (aside from original cost to make it or purchase it). But > that’s not true. Apparently, just making a film or show available for > streaming incurs a significant licensing fee cost. We need to think of > every show and film on a Streamer’s available archive as if it were > actually being exhibited or shown on a TV channel, (I.e. there are as many > channels exhibiting licensed content as there are individual films or shows > in a Streamers archive) and that means you have to pay the owner of the > content their fee, whether it is being watched by millions or by no one. > > Streamers original strategy was to have so much content always available > that it drive subscription sign-ups and kept subscribers paying every > month. That worked for a while, especially for Netflix. But not anymore. > Mist subscribers will not subscribe or stick around just because they can > always find something to watch; they come for what they want, then leave > and go some place else. Now all that Un or under-watched content is all > cost and no benefit, and Streamers are wanting to eliminate them. > > Belloni notes that residual payments to writers and actors make up a very > small slice of the cost to streamers, and are not really a factor in the > Purge (so go ahead and increase their residuals). > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK3pTXpv69ih5XggjZs5fGbYmK_cyJ1Bo54cW6SucKgqw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK3pTXpv69ih5XggjZs5fGbYmK_cyJ1Bo54cW6SucKgqw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/83234D12-CE01-467A-A701-E5B7457C4B76%40ellwanger.tv > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/83234D12-CE01-467A-A701-E5B7457C4B76%40ellwanger.tv?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/2015939518.969508.1684814009248%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/2015939518.969508.1684814009248%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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