To be fair, the Trolls number is probably heavily influenced by the 'sneak
preview' screening last weekend and presale of 1st-run streaming rights to
the 'Cock.
Honestly, tho...how does any student OTHER than WB release a Road
Runner/Wile E. Coyote movie? ("Roger Rabbit" not withstanding.)
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:52:14 AM UTC-5 Adam Bowie wrote:
> According to Matt Belamy at Puck, the film is now going to get shopped
> around, so not necessarily locked into the vault. Aside from anything else,
> I guess there are some relationships to maintain.
>
> He also has a bit of a discussion about exactly how much you really save
> by taking a tax write off on a film that has already cost millions.
> Basically, the main gain is that you can account for it sooner, rather than
> waiting months or years for the movie to play through the various windows
> and the accounting to be mostly calculated. So take the loss now rather
> than a year or two down the line. And WBD does have an enormous debt pile
> to pay down.
>
> I've got to think that with the likely paucity of movies in theatres in
> spring/summer next year, someone will bite on this. I mean "Trolls Band
> Together" which hasn't even opened in the US yet, has earned nearly $60m.
> (OK - I know film economics mean you basically need to double your
> production budget to hit the black, and this movie is said to have cost
> $70m).
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:35 PM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There’s a biased reasoning that if the movie is getting shelved it must
>> be a terrible movie. It’s entirely possible that these movies are fine,
>> even better than some which have been released, but there’s some accounting
>> or tax benefit to shelving them. If it’s saving them money one way or
>> another it doesn’t have to make sense.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 2:27 PM M-D November <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> He released the new Space Jam movie, but this is getting shelved? Come
>>> on.
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 11:40:52 AM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As others indicated, I’m not versed in studio accountancy, but nobody
>>>> seemed interested in the tax write off by NOT releasing the Cindy
>>>> Crawford/Baldwin brother film Fair Game, despite it being theatrical
>>>> malaise. The studio that gave us Kangaroo Jack is claiming a Wile E Coyote
>>>> movie is somehow lacking?! The studio said “yes” to the cinematic flotsam
>>>> and jetsam that was the Arthur remake, Battlefield Earth, and Cop Out, but
>>>> a film about a female caped crusader gets buried in a shallow grave?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 5:36 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Producers, directors, writers, and some technical people have to take
>>>>> years out of their lives to make movies like this happen. To go through
>>>>> all
>>>>> that and then find out nobody will get a chance to watch them must be
>>>>> heartbreaking.
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s like a Renaissance prince was a patron to a master artist. He
>>>>> asks the artist for a painting on a specific subject, and when the artist
>>>>> shows him the final work he burns it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:02 AM Doug Eastick <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would have liked to watch this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Resilience, anvils, trains, fake light at the end of the tunnel....
>>>>>> So many metaphors for this story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still don't really Get the idea of spending $70M+ and canning it
>>>>>> and getting a tax write-off. I guess that's why I'm not an accountant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Doug
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 7:05 p.m. Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s a clever premise. Sort of like Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
>>>>>>> but for the WB animated characters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 3:03 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The live-action/CGI film made originally for Max (when it was HBO
>>>>>>>> Max) in which Wile E. Coyote sues the maker of all of those devices
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> did not help him catch the Road-Runner, in which John Cena played the
>>>>>>>> attorney representing ACME, wrapped last year, was moved to theatrical
>>>>>>>> release in July but got postponed in favor of, hi "Barbie"!, and now
>>>>>>>> Daddy
>>>>>>>> Zaslav, Super Genius, has decided that it will jon "Batgirl" and
>>>>>>>> "Scoob!
>>>>>>>> Holiday Haunt" in the Land of Tax Write-offs--understandably, the
>>>>>>>> film's
>>>>>>>> director is pissed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/john-cena-coyote-vs-acme-movie-shelved-1235643235/
>>>>>>>>
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