Re: DRM on ATSC 3 blocking channels!

Call your congress critters and the FCC. Broadcasters are using DRM to
restrict access to PUBLIC broadcasts.
At minimum, if this is not fixed ATSC 3 will go down in flames! Which is a
pity because the bedrock technology is
good. Are there any early adopters that are having this problem?

Frustrated in Baltimore

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> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/30ab6a75a4913aa5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Nov 22 09:20AM -0800
>
> It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action
> scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March.
>
> Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins
> similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show
> from
> "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in
> Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of
> "I Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new
> guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and
> with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To
> Tell
> the Truth."
>
> On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 p.m. (but against SNF and the
> Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg"
> (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by
> Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after
> "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not
> air
> until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at
> 9:30.
>
> On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox)
> that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed
> by
> the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon
> Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by
> the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come
> out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28).
>
> And finally, on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted
> with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the
> next
> night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in
> on the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in
> the
> "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of
> "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on
> the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally
> does not allow to air U.S. shows in prime time) and the biggest
> surprise--the moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation
> Domination
> block, which may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about
> to
> run out, Fox is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or
> move
> to ABC or Hulu.
> Tom Wolper <[email protected]>: Nov 22 01:48PM -0500
>
> I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox press
> release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on February
> 18.
>
>
> https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]>: Nov 22 02:54PM -0800
>
> “The Simpsons” has already been airing new episodes this season, so that's
> not really a season premiere, more like “a return after 'Grimsburg' has
> been in its regular time slot for a while.”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 22, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox
> press release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on
> February 18.
>
>
> https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action
> scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March.
>
> Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins
> similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show from
> "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in
> Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of
> "I Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new
> guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and
> with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To Tell
> the Truth."
>
> On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 pm (but against SNF and the
> Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg"
> (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by
> Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after
> "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not air
> until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at 9:30.
>
> On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox)
> that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed by
> the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon
> Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by
> the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come
> out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28).
>
> And finally, on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted
> with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the next
> night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in
> on the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in the
> "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of
> "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on
> the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally
> does not allow to air US shows in prime time) and the biggest surprise--the
> moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation Domination block, which
> may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about to run out, Fox
> is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or move to ABC or
> Hulu.
>
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> "Kevin M." <[email protected]>: Nov 22 04:08PM -0800
>
> Is anyone in this group still watching new episodes of The Simpsons? I’ve
> always liked the show, but I feel like I’ve watched enough of it. On rare
> occasions, I’ll dig back into the “classic” episodes from the first decade
> or so, but I don’t think I’m missing much if I choose to not watch let
> alone not rewatch anything from the last 15 or so years. I think the only
> new episode I’ve seen in the last decade was the Futurama crossover.
>
> David Bruggeman <[email protected]>: Nov 23 12:48AM
>
> I do catch up on episodes every few months (I'll probably watch the
> current season so far over the holiday weekend), but it's not the kind of
> appointment television it would have been for me up until a decade or so
> ago.
> I'm making no guarantees of quality, but I think episodes like Treehouse
> of Horror that break from the typical format stand a better chance of not
> feeling like the old familiar.
> Best,David
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 04:08:36 PM PST, Kevin M. <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Is anyone in this group still watching new episodes of The Simpsons? I’ve
> always liked the show, but I feel like I’ve watched enough of it. On rare
> occasions, I’ll dig back into the “classic” episodes from the first decade
> or so, but I don’t think I’m missing much if I choose to not watch let
> alone not rewatch anything from the last 15 or so years. I think the only
> new episode I’ve seen in the last decade was the Futurama crossover.
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:54 PM Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> “The Simpsons” has already been airing new episodes this season, so that’s
> not really a season premiere, more like “a return after ‘Grimsburg’ has
> been in its regular time slot for a while.”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 22, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
> I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox
> press release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on
> February 18.
>
> https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action
> scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March.
> Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins
> similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show from
> "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in
> Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of
> "I Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new
> guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and
> with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To Tell
> the Truth."
>
> On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 p.m. (but against SNF and the
> Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg"
> (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by
> Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after
> "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not air
> until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at 9:30.
> On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox)
> that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed by
> the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon
> Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by
> the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come
> out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28).
> And finally,  on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted
> with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the next
> night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in
> on the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in the
> "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of
> "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on
> the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally
> does not allow to air U.S. shows in prime time) and the biggest
> surprise--the moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation Domination
> block, which may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about to
> run out, Fox is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or move
> to ABC or Hulu.
> Doug Eastick <[email protected]>: Nov 22 09:54PM -0500
>
> I have not watched a current season episode in a least a decade.
>
>
>
> /Doug
> [email protected]
>
> Ben Scripps <[email protected]>: Nov 22 10:16PM -0500
>
> Once or twice a season, I'll drop in for an episode. I typically go in
> with the same expectations I have with SNL: tired, unoriginal, past its
> prime, treading water. Unlike SNL, I usually come out thinking it was
> better than I expected, but still nothing I need to have back in my life on
> a weekly basis.
>
>
> Back to top <#m_-4755891510033004745_digest_top>
> Tay-Tay = yooge ratings, even in the NFL
> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/c4d89d5bb856b021?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Bob Jersey <[email protected]>: Nov 22 06:44PM -0800
>
> Commissioner Goodell (for better or worse) weighs in on the couple's
> influence on the league, among other topics, with "CBS Mornings"...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-commissioner-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-romance-1235675409/
> (link),
> or, to go straight to the 'toob, https://youtu.be/yUmNSbirx1I (link)
> B
>
> Moi, to Jim Ellwanger, in part, Oct 5th:
>
> The league is fighting back against snotty fans worried that their social
> media hornblowing is taking their attention away from, say, actual
> football
> stuff...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-defends-social-media-spotlight-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-backlash-1235609086/
> (link)
> Back to top <#m_-4755891510033004745_digest_top>
> You Knew It Was Coming...
> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/1ace075033f928c3?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Bob Jersey <[email protected]>: Nov 22 06:35PM -0800
>
> The THR interview with ...*The Challenge*'s execs addresses things like
> the
> freezing conditions, why one game was omitted, and the whole process of
> boiling down footage of hundreds of contestants into hour-long-or-less
> episodes...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/squid-game-challenge-interview-1235647920/
> (link)
> B
>
> Moi, to Mark Jeffries, Oct 23rd:
>
> It's done, it's scheduled to drop in a month, and... have a trailer!
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflix-squid-game-the-challenge-reality-show-trailer-1235624402/
> (link)
> or directly: https://youtu.be/O61C8zc8Znk (link)
> Back to top <#m_-4755891510033004745_digest_top>
> 'Top Gear' Put on Hiatus by BBC
> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/71481feb8ab2f98f?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Nov 22 09:51AM -0800
>
> The long-running (over 45 years!) automobile show has been taken out of
> production by the Beeb following an October 22 high-speed crash involving
> host Freddie Flintoff, of which BBC Studios, the for-profit division that
> actually produces the show and most other in-house productions, had to pay
> out an over $11M settlement--the call was made based on an investigation
> of
> the show's health and safety practices following the crash (which the Beeb
> would not reveal):
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/bbc-axes-top-gear-freddie-flintoff-accident-1235667906/
>
> The overseas licensed versions of "Top Gear" continue (which at this time
> does not include the U.S.).
> "Kevin M." <[email protected]>: Nov 22 10:17AM -0800
>
> Wait wait wait… are you saying it is unsafe for amateurs to drive cars
> really fast?
>
> John Edwards <[email protected]>: Nov 22 01:38PM -0500
>
> The story acting as if “Freddie” is his real name is hilarious to me. (It’s
> Andrew)
>
> He’s made a few public appearances this summer, as he was getting back into
> coaching cricket, and it looks like he still has some way to go to recover.
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:51 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> M-D November <[email protected]>: Nov 22 12:29PM -0800
>
> I'll be honest, I didn't even realize the flagship show was still running.
> I know it continued after the Clarkson/Hammond/May exodus, but I quickly
> lost interest in it.
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 1:39:08 PM UTC-5 John Edwards wrote:
>
> "Kevin M." <[email protected]>: Nov 22 12:33PM -0800
>
> I thought the late Sabine Schmitz was a great presenter on the series, but
> nobody else was able to conjure a fraction of the chemistry of the big
> trio, no matter how hard they tried. And they tried hard.
>
> David Bruggeman <[email protected]>: Nov 22 08:42PM
>
> I think it didn't help with the audience when the show left BBC America
> for the Road & Track channel.
> David
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 12:33:57 PM PST, Kevin M. <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I thought the late Sabine Schmitz was a great presenter on the series, but
> nobody else was able to conjure a fraction of the chemistry of the big
> trio, no matter how hard they tried. And they tried hard.
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:29 PM M-D November <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I'll be honest, I didn't even realize the flagship show was still running.
> I know it continued after the Clarkson/Hammond/May exodus, but I quickly
> lost interest in it.
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 1:39:08 PM UTC-5 John Edwards wrote:
>
> The story acting as if “Freddie” is his real name is hilarious to me.
> (It’s Andrew)
> He’s made a few public appearances this summer, as he was getting back
> into coaching cricket, and it looks like he still has some way to go to
> recover.
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:51 PM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The long-running (over 45 years!) automobile show has been taken out of
> production  by the Beeb following an October 22 high-speed crash involving
> host Freddie Flintoff, of which BBC Studios, the for-profit division that
> actually produces the show and most other in-house productions, had to pay
> out an over $11M settlement--the call was made based on an investigation of
> the show's health and safety practices following the crash (which the Beeb
> would not reveal):
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/bbc-axes-top-gear-freddie-flintoff-accident-1235667906/
>
> The overseas licensed versions of "Top Gear" continue (which at this time
> does not include the U.S.).
> Back to top <#m_-4755891510033004745_digest_top>
> Eagles-Chiefs gets best ratings in 27 years
> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/92553569ef02b7e8?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Bob Jersey <[email protected]>: Nov 22 07:28AM -0800
>
> Over 29 million viewers checked out the MNF matchup across all platforms
> with it, the most since a 1996 Dallas-Green Bay clash... the mark will
> likely be topped by the late-afternoon Thanksgiving meeting, Washington at
> Dallas, THR suggested...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/eagles-chiefs-monday-night-football-ratings-nov-20-2023-1235671468/
> (link)
> B
> Back to top <#m_-4755891510033004745_digest_top>
> NFL flexing next weekend
> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/388fd90b23e75b08?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
> Bob Jersey <[email protected]>: Nov 22 07:09AM -0800
>
> The deadline for the MNF game (Cincinnati at Jacksonville) being switched,
> was Monday (20), and it remains where it is... two CBS games, Carolina at
> Tampa Bay and Denver at Houston, switch time slots, latter to 1, former to
> 4...
>
> https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Week-13-Flex-Scheduling---Dec.-3-Broncos-Texans-Game-Moves-to-1-p.m.-ET;-Panthers-Buccaneers--to-405-p.m.-ET-on-CBS.aspx
> (link)
> B
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