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On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:21 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > [email protected] > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/tvornottv/topics> > Google > Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > Topic digest > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/tvornottv/topics> > > - Jeopardy! UK - the Stephen Fry Edition > <#m_-865664874769985246_group_thread_0> - 3 Updates > - Max Sports Tier to Remain Free for--a While > <#m_-865664874769985246_group_thread_1> - 1 Update > - Lythgoe Out on 'SYTYCD' <#m_-865664874769985246_group_thread_2> - 4 > Updates > - For Palmer, Password is 'Emmy' <ding> > <#m_-865664874769985246_group_thread_3> - 1 Update > - Your Globes Host is Jo Koy--Who? > <#m_-865664874769985246_group_thread_4> - 1 Update > > Jeopardy! UK - the Stephen Fry Edition > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/32d3e823bb80720b?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Adam Bowie <[email protected]>: Jan 08 06:22PM > > ITV has been airing their new Stephen Fry-hosted episodes of Jeopardy! They > only placed an initial order of 20 episodes which are airing at 4pm > weekdays just ahead of The Chase. But the first episode did get a slightly > later airing on New Year's Day. But that timeslot is probably going to > limit their audience a bit. However, ITV's afternoons from 3-6pm are all > hour-long quizshow formats. > > I've not seen enough of the original Jeopardy! to know how it's very > different. To my eyes, the sets, graphics, and music are all the same. But > ITV has stretched episodes out to an hour. And you need to remember that UK > broadcasting rules prohibit stuffing as many minutes of commercial airtime > in our shows as the US allows. In other words, one UK commercial hour needs > more content than two US commercial half hours - or two episodes of > Jeopardy! > > All of this means that Fry can be a bit more relaxed, and add a few > interjections of his own - clarifying answers, adding details and so on. > And we get longish chats with contestants, which most of the 45-60 min > quizshows tend to include. He also has to be a tiny bit lenient about > contestants getting the answer format 100% right, since it's not built into > UK viewers DNA just yet. > > The hour runtime also means we get *two* rounds of Jeopardy! before we get > to Double Jeopardy! and then Final Jeopardy! as usual. A Radio Times puff > piece included this: > > "As Fry mentioned, participants are able to play an extra round in > comparison to the original format. This has been done to increase the > stakes for the players." > > But it's pretty clear that ITV wanted an hour long show, and that's the > sole reason for the extra round. > > Overall, while I like Fry, and the level of questions is high, I'm not sure > how well this will do. I think it needs a longer run. I can't say I'll be > going out of my way to watch it. Fry has also recorded six primetime > episodes for Australian TV, on the same UK set, but with Australian > contestants. > > > Adam > Jim Ellwanger <[email protected]>: Jan 08 10:46AM -0800 > > Three rounds of "Jeopardy!" in a one-hour slot is not unknown to Americans > - that's the format of the prime-time "Celebrity Jeopardy!" series. (In > that case, dollar amounts are 1x/2x/3x, although the first round values are > $100 to $500 - on regular "Jeopardy!", the first round values have been > $200 to $1,000 since 2001.) > > I saw the first UK episode, and to me, the very weirdest thing is that > there's no commercial break in the middle of the first two rounds, but > there IS a commercial break in the middle of the Double Jeopardy! round - > seems like you'd want to play the most high-stakes round all the way > through with no break in order to maximize tension. (And then there's no > commercial break between that round and Final Jeopardy!, although it was > pretty clear that there was an edit while the contestants formulated their > wagers.) > > Adam Bowie <[email protected]>: Jan 08 07:10PM > > The allowable break structure for UK commercials is a whole can of worms. > Ofcom, the UK regulator, has strict rules about the number of breaks, the > duration of ads, and the distribution of the break structures. Ordinarily a > show between 45 and 59 minutes (which Jeopardy! UK would count as), > would only be allowed two *commercial *breaks. Oh, and you can't place an > ad-break right near the end of a show because there would be too little > time between breaks. That's why they've gone for the middle of Double > Jeopardy! rather than before Final Jeopardy! > > In the shows I've seen, there are three breaks - at the ends of rounds one > and two, and also in the middle of Double Jeopardy! That would seem to be > against the rules. Except the third break in the UK doesn't actually > contain any commercial messaging - just trailers for other ITV shows. And > that's allowed. I think the show has been built with that structure to > allow it to air elsewhere (e.g. Australian TV is also taking the Stephen > Fry UK episodes). > > It's a weird workaround, and you can read our rules in detail here if you > want to: > > https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/16328/rules.pdf > > The more obnoxious thing commercial broadcasters do to get around rules is > commonly used on some channels in movies. Because there are limits in how > many breaks you can place in a movie, the workaround for broadcasters is to > essentially place an intermission where a rubbish five minute > "entertainment" show is added. This means the film is in two separate > parts. And it basically allows an extra break to be inserted. It makes a > mockery of watching the film and having to endure mind numbing rubbish in > the middle, with extra ads. Obviously I would never watch a film on a > channel that does this. > > > > > Back to top <#m_-865664874769985246_digest_top> > Max Sports Tier to Remain Free for--a While > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/ab3b4477398f5e80?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Jan 08 10:01AM -0800 > > The branded Bleacher Report tier containing live game telecasts from the > Turner channels needs to have "tech integrations," or so they say, and > thus > the building of the paywall ($10 a month) has been postponed from Mar. 1 > for the immediate future, basically meaning that all of Turner's NCAA > basketball tournament telecasts (including the Final Four) and NBA and NHL > playoff games will be available for no extra charge to Max > subscribers--thank you, Daddy Zaslav: > > > https://deadline.com/2024/01/max-br-sports-streaming-delayed-launch-warner-bros-discovery-1235696080/ > Back to top <#m_-865664874769985246_digest_top> > Lythgoe Out on 'SYTYCD' > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/3ba354589e28df03?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Jan 08 08:36AM -0800 > > Nigel Lythgoe, the co-creator, co-producer and judge on the long-running > Fox reality comp "So You Think You Can Dance," has left the show a week > after Paula Abdul filed a sexual assault lawsuit against him over alleged > actions while she was working on "American Idol," which he co-created and > co-produced, and then on "Dance" in 2015, when she was a panelist for that > year--Lythgoe denies the accusations, but has still decided to leave, > perhaps to the relief of Fox and show producers Industrial Media and dick > clark productions (what a week for dcp!): > > > https://www.npr.org/2024/01/06/1223303666/nigel-lythgoe-so-you-think-you-can-dance-sexual-assault-allegations?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20240108&utm_term=9197775&utm_campaign=news&utm_id=10634280&orgid=309&utm_att1= > > My own concern for "Dance" this season (which starts Mar. 4) is that Cat > Deeley, who I see as more the heart and soul of the show more than anyone > else, will not be back as host. Her love and support for the contestants > will be greatly missed. > Adam Bowie <[email protected]>: Jan 08 05:51PM > > I'm pretty sure that even though she lives in the UK these days (her > husband, Patrick Kielty, presents Irelands long-running, and highly > prestigious, Late Late Show), Cat Deeley is still hosting SYTYCD. > > Looking around the internet, it started shooting in Atlanta last month. > > > Adam > > Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Jan 08 09:53AM -0800 > > Then I'll blame Dateline for the error. > > On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 11:51:23 AM UTC-6 Adam Bowie wrote: > > Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Jan 08 09:54AM -0800 > > Deadline. You know, Nikki's former website, now owned by Penske like every > other entertainment news site. > Back to top <#m_-865664874769985246_digest_top> > For Palmer, Password is 'Emmy' <ding> > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/313b7e5b748d1a56?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Jan 08 09:52AM -0800 > > Keke Palmer has become the third woman in Emmys history to win the award > for hosting a game show for her gig on the Jimmy Fallon-produced reboot of > "Password" on NBC, interestingly enough 48 years after the last time a > host > of the franchise was nominated (that would be original host Allen Ludden, > who also won at the tail end of the show's ABC run)--the previous women > were Meredith Vieira in 2005 and 2009 for "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" > (with five other nominations over the years) and Betty White in 1983 for > "Just Men!" (she was nominated the next year for this show but was beaten > by Bob Barker for "The Price is Right"): > > https://deadline.com/2024/01/keke-palmer-emmys-game-show-host-1235698124/ > > Other women nominated over the years: Susan Stafford ("Wheel of Fortune" > with Chuck Woolery in 1978), Vicki Lawrence (the NBC daytime "Win, Lose or > Draw" in 1988 and 1989), Nancy Pimental ("Win Ben Stein's Money" with > Stein > in 2002--she replaced Jimmy Kimmel), Carnie Wilson (Game Show Network's > "Newlywed Game" reboot in 2010), Brooke Burns (GSN's first U.S. version of > "The Chase" in 2016), Leah Remini (GSN's "People Puzzler" in 2022, which > is > now in syndication) and this year, Mayim Bialik ("Jeopardy!" with Ken > Jennings--and considering recent events, there's probably relief they > didn't win--but "Jeopardy!" did win for best game show). > > This is the first year the game show awards have been in the prime time > Emmys after years in the daytime Emmys--the Creative Arts awards will be > telecast in an edited form this Sunday night on FXX. > Back to top <#m_-865664874769985246_digest_top> > Your Globes Host is Jo Koy--Who? > <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/c58399f5ae399eb7?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > Mark Jeffries <[email protected]>: Jan 08 09:51AM -0600 > > I was out last night going to see Second City for the first time in years > (pretty good show), so I didn't watch or record the Globes. Would I assume > that they tried to lean heavily on the laugh track to try to cover up Koy's > lack of crowd response? It's no secret that the awards shows sweeten > heavily, since I've seen enough shots over the years of the audience not > applauding while we hear tumultuous applause on the soundtrack. It goes > back to when Bob Hope bombed one year at the Oscars. The next time he > hosted, Charley Douglass' Laff Box was in the sound truck. The exceptions > are when Johnny Carson or Dave say they don't want sweetening, which turned > out not to be a good thing for Dave at the Oscars, since we heard the crowd > genuinely not laughing at Dave and lots of laughter at the presenters' > written-by-Bruce-Vilanch quips. > > Mark Jeffries > [email protected] > > > Back to top <#m_-865664874769985246_digest_top> > You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this > group. 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