I've watched three shows: the premiere and the episodes with Tompkins and
Vayntrub. I've tuned in late for a couple of others and couldn't stand it or
stay withit (the Doug Benson one was particularly disturbing, since I think his
constant weed intake may have affected his mental facilities; he seemed almost
Randy Quaid levels of addled).
Directing this show must be a breeze: show the screen, show the panelist, show
Tomlinson shouting at camera. Rinse and repeat.
--Dave Sikula
On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:16:51 AM PST, Diner
<bwayst...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've watched three episodes so far: episode 1 (because it was the premiere),
episode 2 (for Paul F. Tompkins), and episode 4 (for Milana Vayntrub).
And it was a real ordeal. I got tired of the hyped-up energy about 15 minutes
into the premiere, and I'm not sure how I made it through 3 episodes. Tompkins
and Vayntrub, as much as I like them, didn't do themselves or the show any
favors.
Tomlinson wasn't horrible, and I'm sure she'll get better. But she mostly made
me think "What would Hollywood Squares have been like if Peter Marshall did a
big fake laugh for every single joke?" She's likable, but she's working really,
really hard to be likable, and the effort is obvious.
There were two moments on episode 4 that stood out for me. One was a joke
Tomlinson made along the lines of "We're only here because CBS wants young
eyeballs." Which is true, of course, and reminded me that maybe the reason I'm
not crazy about this show is that this show isn't made for me.
The other was the best moment on the episode: when comic Kelsey Cook told a
story about how she and Tomlinson once attended a male strip show together and
Tomlinson got freaked out. And she was clearly uncomfortable hearing the story
again. It was the best part of the show, but it had nothing to do with the game
- it was basically a talk show story that would have worked equally well on any
of the other late night network shows. It was the one moment when Tomlinson's
true personality broke through. I hope there are more moments like this.
As Dave said, if I watch again, it'll be because of the guests. And as Tom
said, I'll check back in a few months to see how it evolves.
On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
Her ratings are about 66% of Cordon’s in his last year (maybe around 75% when
DVR is included. She makes 50% of Cordon’s $6 Million salary, so maybe CBS is
doing better on net cost. I am surprised they are paying her that much though,
which makes me think they are expecting her to do better in three months, and
that she would become a hotter property down the road and be cheap at $3
Million.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 7:11 AM Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:
The follow up question is not, “why isn’t this show doing better?” It’s “what
could CBS possibly put on in this time slot that would do better?”
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 9:56 AM Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
The ratings are… unremarkable
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/after-midnight-premiere-week-ratings-cbs-1235806088/amp/
Kevin M. (RPCV)
On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:00 PM Adam Bowie <ad...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:
The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their
acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it,
bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a writer
under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with After
Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or not it’s
actually funny.
I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I don't
think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather than don't
work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm just not sure
you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few hours before
broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into things that don't
work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets it.
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