I’m not that surprised. I’m sure there are some Fox News folks who insisted
Trump won, but there are a significant number who despite their bias have
some connection to reality. Ditto MSNBC, where most anchors acknowledged
Biden had lost the first debate.

By any criteria Trump got his ass kicked. Whether it changes anyone’s mind
remains to be seen, but I doubt it. Trump Voters want an excuse to pretend
they believe that immigrants will eat their dogs and democrats will murder
babies after they are born. There is nothing stupid or hateful or absurd
enough to persuade most of his supporters to change their mind. But maybe
Trump’s horrible performance will help a critical mass of unlikely voters
to come out for Harris.

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On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 at 11:58 AM Marti Lawrence <[email protected]>
wrote:

> We skipped around to catch follow-up commentary from several sources, and
> I was surprised when the broadcasters on Fox said they thought Harris won
> the debate.
>
> ~Marti
>
> On Thursday, September 5, 2024 at 1:52:25 PM UTC-5 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
>> Pretty much same as last time on CNN when it was Biden v. Trump, ABC's
>> producing it but it will be on all terrestrial networks except The CW (some
>> CW affiliates may carry it), news cable channels and news streamers Tuesday
>> night (unless Trump succeeds to get out of it):
>>
>>
>> https://www.thewrap.com/abc-sets-rules-for-harris-trump-debate-muted-microphones/
>>
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