As far as I'm aware, the same company, Hat Trick, is making the US version
as has long produced the UK version. I suspect a bunch of the British team
has been in the US putting this together - at least initially.

The UK version is taped 24 hours ahead of broadcast, and usually tapes for
2-3 hours to make a 27 minute ad-free version for the BBC. A slightly
longer edit at 42 mins or so is available (and plays later on Dave&U in a
commercial hour). So I'd be amazed if the US show was live. It's one of
those panel shows where the scores don't matter and you simply drops
rounds/gags that don't work by massively over-recording and then producing
something a bit tighter.

Obviously, key to panel shows on the BBC is that they are commercial free
and 30 minutes (or 27 mins in reality) is tight enough to leave you wanting
more. I'm mostly not a fan of stretching shows out to a commercial hour
like this, and think it shows why these formats of programmes work in the
UK and don't in the US - at least to date.

To be clear, the UK show is now formatted with a weekly guest host  (often
the same guests working once a series), two regular team captains and then
a mix of comedians, politicians (if they're game), newspaper pundits, TV
presenters and others. They obviously need to have a grasp of current
affairs, and yes, it's tough to get a word in amongst three other
comedians. Ian Hislop, on the UK captains, isn't a comedian as such - he
edits the satirical magazine, Private Eye. But he's been doing this show
long enough that he can quip quickly. But they allow space for the
non-comic guests to come in. That said, you get weeks where the non-comic
seems to say very little and you guess that the editor has earned their
money finding even a few seconds of footage to show that they said anything
in the recording session!

I don't think they're showing this on the international version of CNN we
get here. But I'll keep an eye out. These  shows always take time to bed
in, although I'm sure they've made one or two non-broadcast episodes before
going live.



Adam

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 8:40 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
[email protected]> wrote:

> There are clips of the British edition available on the YT through Hat
> Trick Productions, the shows' (both UK and US) production company.  Longer
> videos are available through other YT sources, but I have no sense if they
> are 'official' or not.
>
> I have tried to get into the UK version, but much like my experience with
> 8 Out of 10 Cats (*not* 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown), I find I need to
> be more familiar with UK news and pop culture than I am to really enjoy the
> show.
>
> One main difference between the shows is that one of the UK team captains,
> Ian Hislop, has a mix of experience in writing and presenting for both
> comedic/satirical and straight-ahead programming.  Recent trends in late
> night television aside, I can't think of anyone in the US who would have a
> comparable resume outside of P.J. O'Rourke, and I don't think O'Rourke did
> television.
>
> One thing to factor in here, I think, is that much like the short-lived US
> attempt at Would I Lie to You, is that the UK versions of both shows have
> been at it for years.  Realistically there's no chance the US versions
> would look good compared to current episodes of their UK counterparts.
>
> David
>
> On Sunday, September 15, 2024 at 11:55:12 PM PDT, 'Dave Sikula' via
> TVorNotTV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Anyone else watch it? I have no familiarity with the British version, so I
> can't compare it.
>
> For the most part, it wasn't very good. While I like Roy Wood Jr. a lot,
> and run hot and cold on Amber Ruffin and Robin Thede, it was one of the
> first times I've liked Ian Michael Black.
>
> The two biggest problems I found were 1) the Libertarian panelist. It
> wasn't his politics (which mostly went unexpressed); it was that he was
> basically a smart author forced to compete with four professional
> comedians, and there aren't a lot of civilians who are equipped for that.
> He was game, but out of his depth. (For example, in the closing "What Will
> Be News Next Week?" bit, the other three gave humorous answers while his
> was sober and serious.)
>
> The other, bigger, problem was that it felt like -- despite a live
> audience -- there was a lot of dead air; it was a 30--minute show crammed
> into a 60-minute slot.
>
> To be honest, probably the liveliest and most unexpected thing on the show
> was the two unbleeped "motherfuckers." Guess CNN didn't go with a
> seven-second delay.
>
> Hopefully, they'll solve some of the problems as they go along, but right
> now, there's not a lot there.
>
> --Dave Sikula
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