Kevin M. (RPCV)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:48 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > There was a time SNL was aimed at a young audience. Now I think they’re > just happy for whoever is watching. > Yeah, the demographic vagueness is obvious from the clips I see… another word for that is desperation > On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 12:25 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> When they rebooted MAD Magazine a decade or so ago, I said at the time >> that if I liked the new iteration, the magazines was doomed to fail, >> because MAD was always a hit with teens (and even preteens), so if I liked >> it, they wouldn’t. I liked it. And MAD went out of business. >> >> I feel the same about SNL. I’m an old fart; I’m not supposed to like it. >> In fact, SNL is supposed to be mocking the failings of my generation in a >> way that appeals to 18 to 24 year olds. I think SNL fails on both fronts. I >> dislike it AND it fails to resonate with the young’uns. >> >> There seems to be a core group who watch the show almost as an >> obligation, and there is a segment of mainstream media that obsesses over >> the series to an unhealthy extent. That’s what keeps it going. >> >> When Rush Limbaugh was alive, liberal media salivated over every bigoted >> and moronic thing he said, and then when he died it became apparent those >> were the only people paying any attention to him. I suspect when Lorne >> Michaels is put in the ground, we will learn the same is true of him (at >> least in the last few decades). He’s being propped up by critics. >> >> I think it was Mark Twain who defined a “classic” book as one that is >> often talked about but never read. The same seems to be true of TV. >> >> Kevin M. (RPCV) >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 9:08 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It’s deeper than that. The originators of SNL tapped a subversive >>> comedic history from Paul Krassner, Terry Southern, Dick Gregory, Lenny >>> Bruce, and others. They were also shaped by MAD Magazine, underground >>> comix, and especially the National Lampoon. SNL didn’t specialize in >>> political comedy early on. Chase’s Ford sketches were just slapstick and >>> Aykroyd’s Carter only appeared rarely. >>> >>> By the late seventies that type of comedy just ran out of gas and then >>> hit a wall when Reagan was elected. It took SNL years to get back on its >>> feet and the humor was no longer subversive. >>> >>> I agree with the article that today’s SNL can’t do political satire very >>> well. It’s mostly because the writers don’t come from a tradition of sharp >>> political satire and the network fears going over a line. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 5:37 PM John Edwards <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In other words: “A young man is now old and I am MAD ONLINE about it: >>>> MY COLUMN” >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 9:14 AM Mark Jeffries <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From the left-leaning American Prospect, author Siddharta Mahanta says >>>>> that Lorne has become "the very sort of out-of-touch, too-comfortable >>>>> elitist the Lorne Michaels of 'Saturday Night' (the recent movie) was >>>>> railing against" (Note: Mahanta is pretty much a member of the Bernie >>>>> left >>>>> who throws around "neoliberal" and isn't wild about Obama): >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://prospect.org/culture/2024-12-13-requiem-for-comedy-dream-saturday-night-live-movie/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/bcbefabb-9130-43d5-a668-8e50896df64dn%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/bcbefabb-9130-43d5-a668-8e50896df64dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJLXtMLXm3AAby4nsfnPUPGM2PCXbH2tgf-Uca9qPjQk1KZObw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJLXtMLXm3AAby4nsfnPUPGM2PCXbH2tgf-Uca9qPjQk1KZObw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiHLo6wq9bXXxdzKBeH8yUK7dytgDH%2BEQEnY_cEc%3Dz9Bjw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiHLo6wq9bXXxdzKBeH8yUK7dytgDH%2BEQEnY_cEc%3Dz9Bjw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DYNx0nCch8SqCQDPo_Wa9u%3DKCDEKsGoaHU3P0J17vrqw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DYNx0nCch8SqCQDPo_Wa9u%3DKCDEKsGoaHU3P0J17vrqw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiGZCYc31u%2B0jr%3DNT5nKGmn5KyfUf7ioGvLOm%3D1Qmj8uOg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiGZCYc31u%2B0jr%3DNT5nKGmn5KyfUf7ioGvLOm%3D1Qmj8uOg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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