The VOA Chas continued to be the only thing like a credible nes source in many countries. I think its role has been more important in recent decades than during the Cold War, when its reporting always had a sent of US propaganda.
The DOGE attack on government has very little to do with efficiency. There are apparent inefficiencies in any large, complex organization, often the cost of providing talented professionals with the room to think and innovate, other times an evidence based judgement by the organization that doing things 15% less efficiently is worth it in order to reduce the chances of periodic Big Price Tag mistakes. And yes, sometimes it is a result of lazy people with little incentive to do better. But DOGE was not about any of that, it was part of a systematic attempt to shrink the footprint of the federal government so that corporations and wealthy individuals have more opportunity to make basic services and functions for profit, with little or no oversight or regulation. Even if the MAGA crowd is defeated in 3.5 years, the US will not soon recover from the damage being done right now. If a foreign nation had somehow had the same degrading effects on our science, education, healthcare, communication, etc industries we would have already declared war on them. Sent from Gmail Mobile On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 at 10:21 AM Melissa P <[email protected]> wrote: > We seem to be listening to different groups of former federal employees, > (1) perhaps because I live in the DC area and news coverage of damage done > is all day and all night, and (2) I am particularly focused on the science > community because that's where I spent 30 years working for the federal > government. The damage being done, especially in the education of future > scientists and engineers -- the foundation of wealth generation for this > country -- cannot be undone, especially in our lifetime. > > Secondly, not only is Trump the most ignorant, incompetent, and corrupt > president in this country's history -- but almost all of his appointees are > equally unqualified for the jobs they've been given, with Kari Lake among > those at the top of the list. She has no credibility whatsoever, and that > alone makes her choices the wrong ones. > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2025 at 11:39 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In a number of political podcasts I listen to, the guest would be a >> former employee of a federal agency or governmental organization that just >> got obliterated, and the guests always said, “We knew we were inefficient >> due to all of the regulations we got from Congress but eliminating the >> agency wasn’t the answer.” >> >> Keeping this in mind, what is the current function of the VOA and what is >> lost by its elimination? When I think of VOA I think of the Cold War and >> someone behind the Iron Curtain tuning in on a shortwave radio to get the >> American side of the news. But in this online connected world who is served >> by the VOA? What is the audience who isn’t already flooded with content >> from the US in their social media? >> >> I of course don’t want to see people lose their jobs or government >> agencies disappear by executive fiat. In the case of the VOA though it >> doesn’t seem like that much damage is being done. >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:59 PM Melissa P <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I had the opportunity to chat with (former) Chief National Correspondent >>> Steve Herman a couple of weeks ago -- and suggested that VOA move its >>> operations to Canada. I wasn't the first person to make that suggestion, >>> but he questioned its feasibility. >>> >>> Another workaround we need: the vaccine approval committee. I read >>> that the medical associations are talking about it. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:46 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Setting the stage for loyalists in the communications industry to come >>>> up with a privatized solution (if the equally-private funding ever comes >>>> through)... >>>> >>>> Mark Jeffries, June 24th: >>>> >>>> Over 600 employees of the global radio network that provided honest >>>> news and information to listeners around the world for over 8 years >>>> received layoff notices last week, including members of the >>>> Persian-language service who had been taken off administrative leave last >>>> week to give reports on the Israeli attack on Iran--the net has been a >>>> target of the Trump Administration because of its straightforward coverage >>>> of the government, which Il Douchebag and the idiot ex-news anchor Kari >>>> Lake, put in charge of VOA and the managing agency the US Agency for Global >>>> Media, consider "liberal bias" (they also claim that rightwing catch phrase >>>> "fraud, waste and abuse")--many former VOA employees say that the net will >>>> be difficult to reassemble under a future adminstration: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/layoff-notices-delivered-to-hundreds-of-voice-of-america-employees/ar-AA1H7v2Y >>>> >>>> >>>> For those wondering, I am well... the dad in me surmised that camping >>>> out in the basement workshop would be the coolest (climatically) thing to >>>> do... 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