On 4 Nov 2014, at 12:10, Glyph <gl...@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
> 
> On the gripping hand, many of these regressions have been outstanding for 
> months, and so if we could get these fixed promptly enough, presumably we 
> would have done that already.

This is mainly why I am in favour of this plan. They’re not small fixes, so we 
can’t just mop them up in a day.
> 
> Delaying the revert is likely to just make things more painful.  Tempting as 
> it is to suggest, bitter experience has taught me that trying to cram things 
> into a release is a recipe for sadness.

*cough* 14.0 *cough* :)

> So rather than asking if you could hold off, could I instead make two 
> requests for this feature:
> 
>       • Can please we do reviews of the fixes to the regressions as if they 
> were landing on trunk, and not have this revert re-open the need to review 
> the entire (rather large) change?

How are we going to manage this? Do we need an “alternate” branch, which 
consists of #6750 + all the regression fixes, and the “review” is making sure 
that all of the known regressions are fixed? Or do we remerge it as a “private” 
API, maybe, so that we can still fit it mostly into our dev process? Or do we 
do a tubes and just spin it off into another thing of its own, then merge it 
when it’s finished? I’m not sure.

>       • If we can manage to get this feature landed again quickly after 14.1, 
> will you have time to do a fast-following 14.2?

As long as it’s not the 22nd of November or the weekend of the 7th of Dec (the 
former of which will be spent in a drunk stupor and the latter is my birthday), 
I can do it no problem.

- hawkie

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