On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:15:30 +0100, Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 04:06:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's likely that Nevow will come to depend upon Epsilon at some point in
the future: for example, code shared between Axiom and Nevow will not be
scattered through the Divmod repository in multiple places.  However, if

What is this code? I'd like to understand.

You can browse it online: 
<http://divmod.org/trac/browser/trunk/Epsilon/epsilon>.  It amounts to a 
general utility library.

Perhaps you're right it worth
it but without knowing the details I've some doubt. I'm really very
annoyed by unnecessary dependencies. I want to checkout stuff from
SVN/CVS repositories not eggs/rpm/deb.

Well, I doubt we're ever going to optimize for that :)  If you want to track development, 
great, but it's not the common case, and it's definitely not how /I/ want to install 
software.  "apt get install ..." is much simpler, and being able to install 
every single package I use that way would make me quite happy.

That said, I don't think you need to worry about an Epsilon dependency.  Epsilon and Nevow 
are in the same SVN repository :)  If you are currently grabbing Nevow by checking out 
<http://divmod.org/svn/Divmod/trunk/Nevow>, you can keep things just as simple and 
get Epsilon, too, by checking out <http://divmod.org/svn/Divmod/trunk>.  Perhaps this 
will give you a few other things you're not interested in (Nevow is by far the largest 
package in the repository, though), but as you said, you have plenty of disk space.


BTW, I'm not a believer in axiom, I bought into the atop hype initially
but about one year ago I luckily listened to Valentino that postgresql
was much better choice. I think one should either don't use a db at all
and index stuff by hand in the filesystem, or use a real DBMS
(postgresql/mysql/commercial) [yes I know axiom can be ported from
sqllite to othe things but I think if SQL is the backend, one would
better understand SQL and write SQL by hand, SQL read committed semantics
must be in the mind of the programmer or things will be racy in real life]

That's cool (although, I have to ask - what hype?  What I remember is telling 
everyone I could /not/ to use Atop ;).  Nevow is not going to come to depend on 
Axiom.  There's just no point.

Jean-Paul

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