Phil Christensen ha scritto:
On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:56 AM, David Reid wrote:
On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:00 AM, Manlio Perillo wrote:
I think that having a "pure" asynchronous WSGI implementation in Twisted Web that implements this extension can be a good starting point for trying to standardize asynchronous web applications.

P.S.: the wsgi.pause_output extension, proposed some years ago here by Donovan Preston should be very easy to implement using ngx.poll, and a pipe.

Does anyone support said extension? Does everyone support the same pause_output? Or just functions of the same name?

It shouldn't be very hard to add support for it to Twisted.web2's WSGI implementation either, but I don't much see the point if no one else supports it. I'm not convinced that WSGI is at all a useful means of writing asynchronous web applications. I think WSGI's only benefit is that it allows you to almost write your application code once and run it on multiple containers.

I'd have to disagree (slightly). There's nothing about WSGI that makes it only applicable to one approach or another (that is, synchronous versus asynchronous).

Right.
This is what makes WSGI great.

It's just as easy to write a Deferred-using asynchronous application as a blocking one.

The real issue is that a "proper" WSGI app gets informed of it's environment by the wsgi.multithreaded and wsgi.multiprocess environ variables, so if you really wanted a write-once-run-anywhere, you'd need to be able to handle both scenarios.


By the way, some time ago I proposed a wsgi.asynchronous enviroment variable.

As far as Twisted's WSGI implementation, it should probably support both approaches, maybe where some kind of argument to the WSGIResource class constructor determines what it specifies in the environ dictionary. It should be the responsibility of the WSGI application itself to do the right thing depending on what's inside the environ dict.


I'm not sure that this is possible.
An application is asynchronous or synchronous.

The problem arises when one have to implement a reusable middleware.

Also, as an aside, I have recently ported web2's WSGI support back to web1, and am using it on a production site with much success. I'd like to contribute it, but I have little to no time to participate in the Twisted review process. Anyone who would like a copy is welcome to it, however...


I'm interested in code that can help me to write a WSGI implementation for web1, thanks!

-phil



Manlio Perillo

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