> On May 20, 2015, at 10:56, Ian Schenck <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I mostly lurk on here, but I wanted to share my recent experience switching 
> my company's wsgi container to twisted wsgi.
> 
> We had been using a particular wsgi container implemented in C. As time went 
> on problems creeped up with cython modules, segfaults happened, and threading 
> had to be disabled. Things that worked in development would not work in 
> production. At this point I wanted two things: the development container 
> should be the production container, and the container of choice should 
> provide a python interpreter environment consistent with actual python. These 
> containers written in C which treat your application like a plugin fail to do 
> that across the board.
> 
> We no longer have any of the issues we had before (cython, threading, 
> segfaults), and if something were to break in production, it is probably 
> broken in development and won't make it out the door. Development servers run 
> the same twisted wsgi container that runs in production, in fact they are 
> both launched the same (but middlewares and reloaders differ). That 
> consistency is a really big deal. Additionally, deployment and config 
> management dropped a few hundred lines.
> 
> The biggest pushback I received was over performance. We benched our real 
> world application (versus, ahem, just returning a string) and found our 
> median response time was consistently 1-2ms higher across various concurrency 
> levels. That's insignificant for us. Under high load, twisted wsgi actually 
> did better with tail latency (99%ile and max). Maybe that slight bump in 
> median latency is because our web workers now speak http instead of a "light 
> weight protocol" akin to scgi, but the benefits of talking http (curl much?) 
> are also worth a millisecond or two.
> 
> Thanks for all the hard work, and thanks Glyph for your 2011 Djangocon talk 
> and your tweets leading me to twisted wsgi. We're very happy. If anyone wants 
> details or a peek at some of the wiring, I can probably get approval to share 
> more.

Thanks very much for your kind words!  Would you be able to fill in more of the 
details and send a similar message to [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>?  We can always use more stories of how 
Twisted made things great for somebody :).

Also, you may be interested in <https://github.com/hangarunderground/hendrix 
<https://github.com/hangarunderground/hendrix>>, which is taking the 
Twisted-as-web-application-container thing to the next level.  (I'd like to 
roll some of their features back into our WSGI container at some point, but in 
the meanwhile...)

-glyph

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