> On May 13, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Jason Litzinger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> This sounds eminently sensible, and in fact sounds like Twisted, or Treq at 
>> least, really ought to do something like this on our end with some kind of 
>> small LRU cache, keeping the most-used N hostnames (where N defaults to some 
>> small number, say, 20).  I'm surprised to hear it is such a big 
>> optimization, but surprises like that are entirely the point of performance 
>> testing!
> Thanks for taking a look!
> 
> I like the idea of an LRU for the last N hosts.  Given I have something
> prototyped that I will expand on, that isn't much of a stretch.  If
> you think it might be useful to Twisted then I can try to iterate the
> patch until it is either rejected or accepted (following the well
> documented steps for contributing of course), thoughts?

This sounds like exactly what you should do.  (Keeping in mind that very nearly 
100% of patches are "rejected" on their first attempt, so please do resubmit :))

> If it fits more in treq then I'm more than happy to share the code, but,
> since I'm not currently using treq the amount of effort I can
> realistically put towards it isn't as high, though that project is very
> appealing.

Probably the best place to put it would be Twisted proper.  I just mentioned 
Treq because sometimes utility functionality like this can become surprisingly 
complex and have a lot of dependencies, and pin Treq it's easier to make the 
case that it's a high-level API that should just always do the right thing, as 
opposed to Agent which needs to preserve maximum flexibility for all HTTP 
client applications.

> On the size of the performance increase -- I was surprised as well, and
> there's always the possibility I made an error, but it was consistent
> across the five tests I ran.  Regardless, I'll be doing more profiling as
> I work toward the final implementation.

Like I said, if we were never surprised we wouldn't have to have tests :-).

>> Nevertheless, thanks for asking!  I really wish people would ask questions 
>> about client TLS more often before doing something potentially insecure :).  
>> In this case, the client connection creator is used to produce client 
>> connections anyway, and the connections are not shared, so there should be 
>> no worrisome mingling of state between connections.
> Agree.  I've come to believe that assumptions mixed with TLS/security
> related issues are my worst enemy.

Not just yours; the latin for "HTTP-only hist" is "hostis humani generis".

> -Jason
> 
> * Completely unrelated - I still owe on my committment to ticket
>  6597...yeah, life happened.  Luckily I saved my notes now that I'm
>  finding some time here and there.

We do what we must, because we can.

-glyph

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